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Old 12-21-2010, 03:44 AM   #11
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Thanks for all the input. I suspected that the individual reviews had to be blown a bit out of proportion. It is truly a shame that Kimber, Colt, etc build a $1000 firearm and include magazines that are inadequate.

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my colt current production mags work just fine.

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Old 12-21-2010, 04:39 AM   #13
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The problem with new 1911s and particularly with new 1911 users is summed up in the first post they make after the cash has been exchanged for the gun; "Just got my new (fill in the blank) 1911, what can I do to improve her?" Most of the time this question is posted before the gun is released from purgatory. Want to improve your new gun? Then open the box and RTFM.

This predicament is what I call P.E.B.T.A.H. (Problem Exists Between Trigger And Holster) and can be verified with statements like on my second clip (it’s a mag you noob) the gun jams. Really? You know there’s an issue and you have only run 14 rounds?

Don’t do anything to, or complain about the “new” gun until you have run 500 rounds of 230 gr Ball (that’s Full Metal Jacket noob) ammo downrange. Don’t try HP’s, +P’s or anything other than what JMB designed the thing to shoot!

Don’t shoot any of the first 500 rounds at a target located greater than 10 meters away. (it’s a gun test not a competition noob) Don’t clean it, don’t field strip it, do nothing but run a jag down the barrel to make sure there is no cosmoline remaining from shipping protection.

If you don’t get the full 500 rounds done in one shoot, let it marinate in the soot and range sweat until you get back to the job at hand. OK, you can wipe the exterior down but don’t go inside yet. (you’re not ready noob)

That job is NOT Break-In, it’s a new gun test to decide if you’re going to send it back to the manufacturer and have them make it right.

This is the time to check for the following:

  • Does it feed with all the mags that came with it?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock on the last round?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with only one round loaded?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with two rounds loaded?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with three rounds loaded?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with four rounds loaded?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with five rounds loaded?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with six rounds loaded?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with seven rounds loaded?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with a full mag?
  • Does it feed and slide-lock with a full mag +1?
  • Where does the brass fall?
  • Does the gun feel solid?
  • Is anything found loose? Grips? Sights? Barrel?........
  • Yes, the slide stop/release is tight. (it’s a new gun noob)
  • Does it fire with the thumb safety on and the grip safety engaged? (do this sans ammo)
  • Does it fire with the thumb safety off and the grip safety off? (do this sans ammo)
  • Trigger take-up?
  • Trigger brake? It should be a surprise.
  • Trigger reset?
  • Does it shoot to aim?
  • Did you take notes?



Shoot the snot out of it.

You’ll thank us.
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Cane,,,, can I repost that on other forums, with your permission?

thanks,,,

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Cane,,,, can I repost that on other forums, with your permission?

thanks,,,
There are other forums? What are you talking about?

What an odd request from someone with a handful of posts...
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What an odd request from someone with a handful of posts...
How many posts would the magic number be? I would take the request to reprint as a compliment, personally.
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... and as very polite and respectful as well.

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Seriously?

If he wants to copy it somewhere else, technically he can just do it. It just seemed very odd that he is showing respect for Cane's opinion but has spent very little time in THIS forum.

And isn't FTF the only forum worth anything on this topic? It sounds like he has toes in many ponds. Respectfully, though, I agree.

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Shoot the snot out of it.
You mean til the barrel and slide are so hot you can't hold your hand on them?

My Kimber has been there a number of time.
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my colt current production mags work just fine.
If i may jump in once more i have to agree with that 100%
I'm a old fart who belives JMB designed the 1911 to hold a 7 rd mag -
Not 8 not 10 & dont even need any fancy "bumper pads"
My latest "ReDo" that i spent every dime i could afford on

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