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Old 07-23-2012, 05:37 AM   #101
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Cane following your directions here is what i found:

1) the ejector is not bent and has no witness marks.
2) there is no rotational movement in the extractor and the FPS is tight.
3) the extractor seems loose as the shell when captured, (in battery) is very loose as when shook falls out after a couple of shakes. (too light)

it does throw the rounds at or about the face or head when shot, not every spent case, but at least every 3-4 rounds.
OK, what I'm about to tell you requires some smithin' skillz. If you're not comfortable with doing the following work, DON'T! Take it to a smith and have the work done. But.....if you're comfortable with the process, give it a try and take a step further into the greatness of the world of the 1911.

Read the procedure to the end. Decide if this is something you can do and then, and only then, proceed. If you have more questions.....ASK before you do something wrong. You can't un-ring a bell. This is really a pretty simple job compared to other 1911 smithin'.

To work on the extractor, you will need to remove the firing pin stop. You accomplish this by pushing the firing pin into the slide and moving the firing pin stop down and out of the slide channel. Watch when the stop clears the firing pin or it will launch itself across the room. (If your gun is equipped with a Colt Series 80 style firing pin safety you will need to push the safety plunger up into the slide, push the firing pin in and release the plunger. This will capture the firing pin and hold it in it's channel after the stop is removed.)

With the FP stop removed, and keeping the extractor indexed in its original position, slide the extractor approximately half way out and recheck the indexing is still correct. See illustration below;



Do the following in baby steps! Apply a light pressure to the extractor resulting in a very slight bend and increasing it's holding power on the brass rim.

BABY STEPS, you've been warned! If you break the extractor you applied too much pressure and that's on you....NOT me! It takes a very little change/bend to increase the extractors holding power.

Re-assemble the slide and preform the shake test to see if you need to do more tuning.

BABY STEPS, there I said it again!

If your recoil and main springs are doing their job to provide proper slide timing, you can tune your extractor to beer-pong the spent brass into a dump bag.

For a shooter wanting to decrease the extractor's holding power just reverse the above process.

Please do not attempt this if you have any questions or are not sure your skill-level is up to it!

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thanks Cane, very much appreciated. i will give this a try tomorrow evening.

would you go the opposite way in bending if it was too tight in holding the shell?

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Old 07-23-2012, 05:47 AM   #103
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thanks Cane, very much appreciated. i will give this a try tomorrow evening.

would you go the opposite way in bending if it was too tight in holding the shell?
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:58 AM   #104
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:22 AM   #106
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Old timey Clark Colt, manufactured in '64, accurized by Jim Clark in '66, sent back for tune up and additional work in '98. Picture is dark, I'll try to do better next time.

Been following a little of the expended cartridge hitting shooter's face discussion. I don't pretend to be a know-it-all about this stuff, or "gunsmith", just a long-time old 1911 guy and Colt O-Frame LE armorer. I'll just share my humble experience with this issue if it's OK. Within my experience, once a gun is extracting reliably, a change in the shape/angle of the nose of the ejector will change the direction of the expended casing. It is emphasized in the Colt armorers schools that extracting and ejecting are two distinctly different things. Sometimes I think this gets confused. I have tuned the ejection path of a number of 1911s over the years, in various calibers, by doing this. Most recently ,on a Colt Custom Shop .38 Super,with an additional Bar-Sto 9MM barrel. I used a medium length ejector and tuned the nose shape, with the result that both calibers ejected reliably 100% of the time. The short factory Colt .45 ejector is the one that has displayed the most erratic ejection path in my guns. That is The One that has put more brass in my face than all others combined. I've had brass fly forward, backward,over the left side, in my face, just any direction possible out of a right side ejection port. Anyway, chnging to an ejector with a different tip shape, length, etc, or modifying the shape of the current ejector will change where the expended brass goes.

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I never thought I'd buy a 1911 made by Smith & Wesson all my previous ones were original Colts. But when I saw this SW1911 E Series I had to have it. Turned out to be an excellent choice.

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Just the angle of the magwell/grip speaks. Finger off for photo. You have a beautiful S&W .45. Period. Never looked at S&W but the design is svelt.

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Lota good talk goin on yall.

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