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View Poll Results: Which is your bread and butter?
STI 1 4.00%
Dan Wesson 1 4.00%
Kimber 11 44.00%
Springfield Armory 3 12.00%
Sig Sauer 0 0%
Other 9 36.00%
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:12 PM   #1
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Hey all, I have been looking hard for a new and first 1911. I have looked at Kimber, Springfield Loaded, Dan Wesson, Sig Sauer, also STI. All are in my price range, kimber being a bit more than I like. I have been searching and trying to find out which of them is the better. I know Kimber had a lot of problems with the external extractor, but is now better. Basically just curious as to which you all like better? I plan to use it for carry, so reliability is a must. Thank you all for your help and comments.

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Welcome to the Forum First Off -

I had to edit your options a bit and add an other category - because there are others that you didn't list and I know some of the guys will have different opinions.

The 1911 is a great choice, but you need to really experience several before you buy one.

Kimber, hands down for my money, is producing the best semi customs on the market right now. I carried their Raptor II for almost 18 months and NEVER had a problem.

The external extractor "problems" were blown way out of proportion, and if you check with the likes of Dave Lauck, you will see that they were on the right track, they just failed to follow through.

Taurus, with their PT1911, is the best bang for the buck 1911 on the market currently in my opinion. It comes with all the features for a lot less price. Taurus has their haters, but they redid their production facility in Brazil about 6 years ago with state of the art CNC machines and their 1911 products have been pretty damn good since then in my opinion. However, it's not really a carry piece.

That said, I currently carry a T3 from Nighthawk Customs and it's the best pistol I have ever carried, hands down.

The guys will be along shortly to offer up some of their opinions... and one of them is GUARANTEED to be Colt....

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I can really only speak to my personal experience but my Kimber has been nothing but reliable. It’s not the fanciest of Kimbers but it is a nail driver. So if you are worried about the reliability of them mine has never failed to fire nor has it failed to load a round, even with the standard Kimber clip.

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This seems to be the "Ford, Dodge, or GM" debate of the 1911 world, haha.

Honestly, I'm gonna say just go with which ever one you like the best, whether it be looks or available features etc. It must be nice to be looking at those higher end ones for your first 1911!

I bought a basic Springfield GI model. Stripped down as can be, and I love it. super reliable, I can hit things with it...seems to be all that matters at me.

I'm not exactly a 1911 Connoisseur...But I can tell what works for me.

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For carry go Colt with either Defender:



Or New Agent:



Dress it up and add a 8 rd Wilson Combat 47DOX(B):



Best carry piece, period!

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You really need to handle as many as possible before buying. What feels good to one person can feel awkward to another. For a carry piece that is critical. Many ranges have guns for rental that you can shoot. Having said that, I would take a hard look at STI. When I decided to get a 1911 I looked at a lot of brands, shot as many as possible, and talk to other 1911 owners at my range. I settled on STI and now own four - 2 fullsize and 2 carry size (3.9" barrels). They are simply superb. Short of going to a custom gun I think they are the best out there.

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I own two Kimbers and both function perfectly well with any ammo I feed
them.............I have had others but they ALL have had their problems,for me.
I try to decide what product will serve me best and consider price last.
I have several acquisitions that were made on the basis of price and most sit on a shelf because they don't work well.
Kimber works for me-----I imagine it will work well for you...should you so choose.
CCW is not a strong point for me and Kimber---way to heavy and bulky !
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Here's my problem with STI - and I bring this up, because it's important in a carry gun and for no other reason....

You are talking about a carry gun. That means when you pull it, it's time to go from clean, to smoking, in less than a heartbeat.

*See Tom Cruise in Collateral in the alley after the words "Yo Homie, is that my briefcase?"*

There is a gal on here who is a competition shooter and she is a damn good one. Her name is AOakley and I bet she stops by before the middle of the week. She shoots an STI in competition and she shoots the hell out of it.

STI, and several others 1911 makers, buy MIM parts from a company from Israel call Bul. They are easy to look up and you will find they do a lot of business.

STI, and several other makers of 1911's, but their discount, less than reliable parts and put them in their low level guns. MIM parts are not ideal for the highest of stresses, which includes a zero to 80 combat piece.

Just something to keep in mind when you are pricing a sidearm that you are betting your life on....

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Here's my problem with STI - and I bring this up, because it's important in a carry gun and for no other reason....

You are talking about a carry gun. That means when you pull it, it's time to go from clean, to smoking, in less than a heartbeat.

*See Tom Cruise in Collateral in the alley after the words "Yo Homie, is that my briefcase?"*

There is a gal on here who is a competition shooter and she is a damn good one. Her name is AOakley and I bet she stops by before the middle of the week. She shoots an STI in competition and she shoots the hell out of it.

STI, and several others 1911 makers, buy MIM parts from a company from Israel call Bul. They are easy to look up and you will find they do a lot of business.

STI, and several other makers of 1911's, but their discount, less than reliable parts and put them in their low level guns. MIM parts are not ideal for the highest of stresses, which includes a zero to 80 combat piece.

Just something to keep in mind when you are pricing a sidearm that you are betting your life on....

JD
And therein lies the reason that I swear by forged framed Kimbers. The only MIM stuff is the trigger.

I've got about 15k rounds on my Compact II and have never had a misfire in experienced hands. I saw one weak ejection and one stove pipe at my wife's hands though.



I should probably re-spring it, but I'm afraid to, because it's so smooth the way it is right now.

You'd have to PM Ineffable for the full story, but I got the pistol, new, for $700. The only thing I would add to it is a set of 2 color Trijicons, a mag well MSH with lanyard loop and some sort of self lubricating finish
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