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Old 10-01-2012, 03:14 AM   #11
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My grandfather's was built within the second 500 to leave the factory. It has a serial, so is there a reason this one wouldn't? Maybe a special version?
Just that they weren't required at the time, so it was just a maybe.
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Just that they weren't required at the time, so it was just a maybe.
I could see that on a civilian production gun, but not military. I'm no expert, I leave that to C3, who I hope stops in soon.
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Well it had a serial number, you can see where it was, but someone literally removed it. I'm hoping it wasn't stolen or sold illegally, that would break my heart.

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Well it had a serial number, you can see where it was, but someone literally removed it. I'm hoping it wasn't stolen or sold illegally, that would break my heart.
It was probably bought surplus and removed by someone who don't like the idea of numbers. Don't worry about it.
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Nickel plated colt/savage 1911 chambered in 45ACP. Most of the markings indicate that it was manufactured around the year 1918, but I'm not too sure. I acquired this gun from my great great grandfather, but Unfortunately, the SN had been removed, so the only way I'm certain of this date is by the stamps on the gun. But I am in love with this gun.
A.J. SAVAGE MUNITIONS CO. did manufacture "Slides Only" but NOT complete pistols. They were under contract from July 20, 1918 and canceled on Dec. 4, 1918. (These slides were then used as spares.)

Your M1911 is most likely an arsenal rebuild.

The nickel plating was likely done post service use.


Colt built all M1911's from 1912 thru 1913. (And all M1911's for the USN/USMC.)

Springfield started production in 1914 and also built them in 1915, 1916 and 1917. (All went to the Army.)

Remington Arms - UMC built them in 1918 and 1919. (Also all for the Army.)
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A.J. SAVAGE MUNITIONS CO. did manufacture "Slides Only" but NOT complete pistols. They were under contract from July 20, 1918 and canceled on Dec. 4, 1918. (These slides were then used as spares.)

Your M1911 is most likely an arsenal rebuild.

The nickel plating was likely done post service use.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTcYVVB6wCw

Colt built all M1911's from 1912 thru 1913. (And all M1911's for the USN/USMC.)

Springfield started production in 1914 and also built them in 1915, 1916 and 1917. (All went to the Army.)

Remington Arms - UMC built them in 1918 and 1919. (Also all for the Army.)
Well there aren't indications that the whole gun is savage. The frame has what seems to be the initials "GHS" and the slide has a flaming bomb with an "S" inside of it. There is also an S on top of the trigger and on the pin that holds the slide back.
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The "S" on the trigger

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the "S" markings are the mark of gilbert h stewart hence the ghs. which means its likely matching gun on the frame. the flaming bomb is ordanance mark often used as a general inspection mark. he inspected guns in 1917 to january 1918.

i concur that yours was rearsenaled and the slide replaced with a suplus one at some point which is liekly how it got the bomb stamp.

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Hm. That's all very interesting, well ill certainly do as much research on it as I can. Thanks everyone for the information!!

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