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Old02-28-2010, 01:05 PM #11
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honestly you don't need hollow points in a .45. I run fmj through mine. You don't need expansion with a bullit that size like you do with other smaller calibers.
So you don't like making a bigger hole if you can? My HST's expand to .996" (that's the largest I've personally measured)....just saying.

I'm going to support trying some new mags first. I hate to hear you're having some feed issues but take it one step at a time and you'll get it worked out.
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honestly you don't need hollow points in a .45. I run fmj through mine. You don't need expansion with a bullit that size like you do with other smaller calibers.
I would tend to disagree with this.

Averages.

.45 ball 11.2mm

9mm HST 15.8mm with the largest of the test at 19.4mm

.45 HST 19.3mm with the largest of the test at 24.4mm

Yeah, YMMV
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honestly you don't need hollow points in a .45. I run fmj through mine. You don't need expansion with a bullit that size like you do with other smaller calibers.
i disagree also. while FMJ is my bullet of choice when im out hunting pigs in south texas due to needed extra penetration of pig meat as a backup weapon. hollow points are what i use for home defense.

i use 230grn speer or hydrashok whichever is available when it comes time to rebuy my defense rounds. ( i shoot the old ones atthe begining of each year and buy fresh ones. ) 230grn is 230grn whether it expands or not the extra oomph a HP round can give by making a bigger bleed channel cannot be forsaken worse case you got a .45 hole best case you got a MUCH bigger one. with FMJ you only get .45

my springfield 1911-A1 will chamber everything from full wadcutters to 230grn FMJ i havent found a bullet yet it wont run.
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I was always under the impression you weren't suppose to use fmj to carry although I do wonder when stocking up on ammo do u spend all ur money on defensive or whatever you can get, I would think whatever you can get.
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I was always under the impression you weren't suppose to use fmj to carry although I do wonder when stocking up on ammo do u spend all ur money on defensive or whatever you can get, I would think whatever you can get.
For practice ammo, I buy whatever is cheap and available.

For my personal defense ammo, I buy several boxes ( 6 to 10 whatever I can find and afford ) from the same lot, same time of manufacture. I shoot 2 or 3 boxes of it for function and reliability, then store the rest in loaded mags in or near the weapon and a box or two in the safe.
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Ok obviously putting a big hole is a whole lot of fun. I actually used Cor Bon Dpx solid copper hollow points when I am hunting. Not because of expansion, though I agree it has much better killing power, as much as velocity. I use this because it will shoot a 45 over 1000fps. Now I use a 460 rowland that shoots 45 at 1400fps. This makes a whole lot of sense to me for hunting. However when I am practice or load for defense I use the fmj. Granted your hollowpoints will undoubtalbe will do more damage than your fmj. But this is the whole point. I want to effectivley stop an attacker, though I might kill him in the process. I am not trying flat out kill him. Fmj does plenty of damage because it is a big slow moving bullit. Unlike a 9mm. I would use a hollow point in a 9mm because not only is it a smaller caliber, but it has much higher velocity. If you don't use a hollow point you risk shooting clean threw the attacker and not effectively stopping him. This is not the case of a 45.
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Granted your hollowpoints will undoubtalbe will do more damage than your fmj. But this is the whole point. I want to effectivley stop an attacker, though I might kill him in the process. I am not trying flat out kill him. Fmj does plenty of damage because it is a big slow moving bullit. Unlike a 9mm. I would use a hollow point in a 9mm because not only is it a smaller caliber, but it has much higher velocity. If you don't use a hollow point you risk shooting clean threw the attacker and not effectively stopping him. This is not the case of a 45.
UM, bubba, hold my beer for a sec.



I do plan on killing my attacker if the situation calls for it. Im no blood thirst sociopath, but dead badguy is the end result.



As for HP vs FMJ. how many times have you seen a starndard factory 9mm fmj run through 12" of meat? this isnt going to happen regularly in 9mm, 40, 45.......Maybe 357, 10mm, 44......

Youd be an idiot not to carry a HP load designed for maximum expansion and energy transfer.
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You guy's do understand the OP has a FTF issue, not a why use HP's!

Slow down Buckaroo! Don't start modifying a "new" gun with only 100 rounds down the pipe!

Is your issue FTF while stripping the first round after reload?

If this is the case are you seating the rounds after loading the mag? I tap the back of the mag against my weak side palm after loading to seat the rounds flat and uniform to the mag.

If your issue is FTF with rounds other than the first, be sure you're still slapping the mag but my guess is that you should run several hundred more Hardball through her for some additional break-in.

If it continues to FTF, get yourself a couple of premium mags (Tripp Gen II Cobra are THE best!) and that should clear up your problem. (Or just go out and buy a Colt!)
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I do plan on killing my attacker if the situation calls for it. Im no blood thirst sociopath, but dead badguy is the end result.



As for HP vs FMJ. how many times have you seen a starndard factory 9mm fmj run through 12" of meat? this isnt going to happen regularly in 9mm, 40, 45.......Maybe 357, 10mm, 44......

Youd be an idiot not to carry a HP load designed for maximum expansion and energy transfer.
hate to burst your bubble but a 9mm fmj and a 40 fmj will shoot threw a person and still be lethal.
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9mm penetration.

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