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Old 09-07-2012, 09:48 PM   #11
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Im sure they do , BUT just for myself. When I train at the range I like to practice instinctive shooting. Thats quick draw and bang no sight aquisition or need to switch on a laser . Plus I think a laser can almost hinder your natural ability because you almost become dependant on seeing that dot to make a confident shot.

Try instinctive shooting just for kicks. No one says you have to stick with it. It's not for some people.

But I can tell you I've drastically improved my shot from multiple positions without the aid of any sight or laser
I agree I dont want to have to rely on anything id rather be self sufficent
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I was that way, but I definitely have come to appreciate lasers for close-quarters...especially green lasers which are good for day or night...

Think about climbing into your attic...wriggling around the rafters...trying to nail a pesky family of squirrels that's moved in...
or racoons...or possums...or rats...or whatever critter is at hand...

Now if you've got a pistol with a lazer, you are SO far ahead of the game it ain't funny...
even more fun, you can get them to "attack the dot" like cats do...then put it on 'em and pop 'em!!

So you spend a few hours clearing your attic, and you figure out that a laser is good for a whole lot of other situations!!!

Is it a substitute for the 25+ years of using a pistol the Old Fashioned Way?? Heck naw!!
But its a very nice tool to add to the inventory

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My wife was having trouble aiming her J-frame. I am dead on with mine. She still has trouble with the sights. Not sure why. She shoots other guns fine. I put a laser on that J-Frame. Totally different story! She can hit pretty consistantly with it now.

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As has been said, they can help tremendously, but,,,, Let me recount an experience from a friend of mine who was a cop in NY for most of his adult life.

Years ago we were talking about lasers and he told me about how a few years before that his department was having an issue with getting their officers qualified on the range. So someone had the bright idea of issuing everyone laser sights. Low and behold, more of the officers that had been going unqualified qualified. Imagine that.

A few years went by and they decided that the lasers were no longer in the budget, so they had to get rid of them. This is where the officers ran into troubles. It seems that even fewer than before actually qualified. Even the officers that normally qualified were having a hard time shooting. They'd became completely dependent on their lasers.

I am not saying don't get one. But I am saying dont get one for the purpose of making yourself more accurate. Get the basics down, become proficient with your carry piece, get to where you can consistently put lead on target when your body is stressed from the holster under decent light from the concealed holster without it. Teach yourself how to point shoot in low light, and all that good stuff. Then once you are consistent get the laser and use it sparingly.

Murphy is lurking in the shaddows. If you become dependent on that laser in practice, and something happens where it don't work when it needs to, you may find yourself up a smelly brown creek without a paddle.

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A laser is useful for the moment of high-stress self defense. It is not a tool for better range accuracy.

It is very difficult with normal (meaning small) amounts of training to reliably look at the front sight or your sights at all in a critical situation. A laser works with your natural instinct to look at the threat (and find the red dot).

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I don't have any lasers on any of the fire arms that I own. I would rather rely on my normal gun sights in a situation. I would have to agree that lasers do make training on trigger control and target acquisition a lot easier.

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Think about climbing into your attic...wriggling around the rafters...trying to nail a pesky family of squirrels that's moved in...
or racoons...or possums...or rats...or whatever critter is at hand...
Are you serious with this analogy? You're going to discharge a firearm in your attic to clear critters?
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The great thing about lasers is that everyone around you can see your shake and/or flinch. Good fun.
I'm no expert, but I believe that one should have a good handle on the basics of shooting before adding the cool toys. YMMV.

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I was at the range one day and there was a guy two lanes over shoot with a laser on something. Now this would not have peeked my curiosity except for the fact he looked like he was put a laser light show on the target. He was so jumpy and shakey that I felt uncomfortable shooting that I had to observe him. I went over to his lane and asked if everything was alright and he said yes so I asked why are your hands shaking so bad, I actually thought he might have been tweaking on something but he said he could help it, it was like the harder he tried not to shake, the more he would. Eventually he left due to frustration. The moral or the story if you can't shoot you can't shoot, a laser will help you shoot better and is an excellent training tool. You still need a steady hand andsmooth trigger pull. Without those a laser will get you closer or at least show you why your shots are not on paper.

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Are you serious with this analogy? You're going to discharge a firearm in your attic to clear critters?
I have before, with ratshot from a .38.
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