Originally Posted by sbrenner
Glocks are made better and never need cleaning as others do!
Used Glock 19 and 17 to train new shooters! Had ever 6 pistols and never cleaned until ready to sell about 2 years later and then replaced them and started over.
While I can't or wont deny GLocks need for minimal maintenance I can say I really tortured a PT1911 last year not cleaning it until I got to over 1200 rounds and it never failed. My229 Sig has not been cleaned in I can't tell you how long. I wipe off the outside because I do carry it some. But..It is a Sig after all.
AS to the OPs questions true the commie ammo is pretty dirty but so is that WBW stuff that is loaded with their 231 powder. It does shoot pretty well but if you start getting a higher round count the muzzle will start looking like a smoked salmon (HEH!).
Keep in mind that most all different flavors of handgun are made different. Some more oose than others. Take the Glock for instance. Those things rattle like hell because they're built much more loose than many others out there. THey lose a little ob accuracy but they get a huge gain on reliability.Because there's s,implymore places for the crap to go and and more room when the crap gets there.So moving parts. Gocks are combat weapons, not target weapons.This in mind they where never made to make under 3" groups at 25 yards like some target model of brand X. I will gladly take a small hit on accuracy to get the reliability. That's why I've always said target pistols do not make good carry guns. Sure they can really impress the guys on range day with great groups. But they are made more tight and have less room for stuff to lay before it becomes a problem. I have a 9mm Springer 1911 that will make a a clover leaf hole at 25 yards but I'd never try to carry it. The trigger is way too light an it's fit way too tight. I woud not want to carry ti around and get lint and who knows what in it. then find out to might not function when I needed it. I guess I could clean it daily but I"m just not going to do it. And shouldn't need to. Because it was not built to carry. It was built to poke paper and look good doing it.
A lot of target ammo so not the cleanest burning. I've hand rolled tons of rounds with all kinds of powder and the 231 Win is not all that clean, especially in bigger bores like a 45. 9mm it isn't bad but it will build up. Not like commie ammo but it's a little messy. Try running rests with different ammo seeing what works best and allows the longest round count. One cheaper ammo I still use a good deal is Sellier & Bellot. It works great in 9mms but will get kind of funky in a 45. In the 40's I've tried it i nit's better in some pistols than others. Design of the weapon has a lot to do with that. The Glock can probably use about anything. THose things will eat about anything and the dirt is not as much a factor. But is some tighter fit weapons sometimes it pays to be a little pickier what you feed them. THose PT92's don't seem to like ot run quite as dirty so the oil factor will comew into play a little more. I can't speak to the 111 because I've not owned one.