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Old 06-27-2009, 06:38 PM   #1
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Default Tough to fill new magazine to top--Problem?

I've got my new Glock 19. Love it. 100 rounds through it, which makes only 125 rounds I've ever fired. I'm a newbie and I 'd like any help offered.

My mag holds 15 rounds. I can definitely get those 15 rounds into the mag, but the last 1 or 2 are awfully tough to pack. Will this become easier over time? Does it cause any problems getting that first round to chamber?

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Old 06-27-2009, 06:48 PM   #2
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If it gets much easier over time it means your spring is taking a "set", and that's not necessarily a good thing. If it becomes too weak, the last rounds may not feed properly. There are two schools of thought on leaving mags loaded, and the devisiveness is almost as strong as the AR vs. AK debate...I am of the opinion that leaving a spring compressed increases the likelihood that it will fail eventually. But, to each his own...

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Default Mags shouldn't be always loaded? Huh?

Thanks for your answer. It does make sense that, if the spring becomes easy, then THAT would be a problem, not the other way around. Good.

The other thing you said boggles me. If the only way to stay armed is to keep a (or multiple) magazine(s) full and ready, are you saying that one should own many more magazines than needed at any one time and rotate them?

My first instructor taught that if one uses the same magazine each day, with the same round loaded first each day, then that first round will eventually misfire (because of the minuscule but additive damage done to a round upon chambering). So I am already keeping track of rotating the first round.

Should I also buy 2 or more extra mags to keep rotating them? I'm cheap so I haven't bought more than the 2 my Glock came with. I'm thinking 30 rounds should be sufficient in ANY problem little 'ol me might encounter.

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I always unload my mags at the end of a day of carrying. I have had the same mags in service for over 15 years doing this with no noticeable change in spring tension. Rotating the first round sounds like a good idea, but if it doesn't appear to be damaged and it chambers, I don't see a problem, since once it is in the chamber it will fire unless the primer has been damaged somehow. At home I rely on a HiPoint .40 carbine for home defense, so I don't need a loaded handgun laying around, and my mags springs therfore are not being stressed for the guns I may actually depend on to save my life. Wolf makes replacement springs for almost every gun made, so it may not be a concern for some. Many people buy spare mags to supplement their factory mags - I have never had a need for more than two mags for my handguns, and I don't carry spares when I carry, but again, to each his own. I live in a rural setting. If I lived in NYC and had permission to carry there, I would probably carry a bandoleer also. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't foresee a need to have more than 7 to 10 rounds - if I do, I have made a more serious mistake of being where I shouldn't be...

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Default Final update

I don't unload my mags every day. But after a couple of months, my mags don't have that tight problem anymore. It must just be a very tight spring that loosens a bit in time.

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I know this is a little late to be chiming in, but here goes.

I also own a G19. My two 15-rd mags that came with the gun still load as 'crisply' as the day I got the gun. I've probably put close to 3,500 - 4,000 rounds through mine, and i see no change in spring tension.

Just for kicks and grins I bought four 17-rd mags with a +2 extension (G17 mags, Scherer +2 extensions) and I also have seen no change in spring tension on those. I normally keep my 19 rounders loaded with FMJ and use them at the range, and my 15 rounders loaded with JHP for home defense duty.

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I have a different pistol entirely BUT I have 3 magazines, and every once in a while my gun jams. So I marked the mags and sure enough its just one of them, the oldest one, the one that the previous owner kept loaded all the time, THAT one causes all kinds of chaos. I thought I needed a new gun, nope just a new mag.

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I have a different pistol entirely BUT I have 3 magazines, and every once in a while my gun jams. So I marked the mags and sure enough its just one of them, the oldest one, the one that the previous owner kept loaded all the time, THAT one causes all kinds of chaos. I thought I needed a new gun, nope just a new mag.
Is this pistol a Glock?

And by oldest, are we talking weeks, months, decades?
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I always keep a loaded magazine with my pistol, but I never fully load it and I swap it out regularly.

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I guess I'm lucky?/unlucky? not to be permitted to keep mags loaded when off the range

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