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Old 10-08-2012, 06:19 PM   #41
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IMO, get the pistol in the caliber you want.

Adjust ammo, holsters, and clothing for CC.

But the gun is gonna suck, if

you can't enjoy shooting it at the range.

Safety ammo (i.e.-hollowpoints) is the way to go.

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Old 10-08-2012, 07:06 PM   #42
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Wouldn't that be a regular 10mm round?


581.8 ft pounds with that .40s&w+p+.

483.7 ft pounds on the bulk 10mm.

I stood corrected.
You weren't wrong. There is no SAAMI spec for .40 S&W +P or +P+. Those are simply overcharged... or they aren't, making it simply hype. Standard pressure .40 S&W have had more than their share of problems, cramming more powder into the case is fraught with potential excitement. Those must be a hoot in a Gen. 1 or 2 Glock. Maybe I'm a bit overcautious (and perhaps a bit judgmental), but selling ammo that exceeds established pressures (as implied by the +p+ annotation) strikes me as irresponsible. If it doesn't exceed published pressures then it's total BS. Neither option appeals to me. YMMV.
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The standard .40sw is 950fps@180 for 360.8 ft/lbs.

Dang! They bumped it up by 221 ft/lbs for the +p+; that is over sixty percent of the base level. That sounds extreme.

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I prefer shot placement over caliber size as a rule. Now every rule has exceptions, for me I love .45's, 9mm, .357 rounds. That is just me and my .02. Shoot what you are the most accurate with, shoot quality ammo, shoot and practice often, then you should be fine. I feel strongly against carrying only one caliber for every situation. I carried a .22lr for years as a bug or mouse gun, I also carried a .357 or a .45 or a .40, unless I could only carry the .22.

Hit the threat in center mass with HP's and over penetration should not be a problem, miss the threat and not knowing what is behind it is a different story. The caliber debate will never end, the right caliber to carry can be found with some rental practice and common sense thinking.

Or you can just get a spray and pray Uzi and kill everything or nothing at all.

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Sorry for posting incorrect info talked to my brother and cousin and they use standard ammo in the .40 and just 9 mm in federal hydroshock Sorry if i misled any body.

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