[g17frantz]

Originally Posted by GaryGlock

Ive heard that before. I haven't used them personally so I didn't want to recommend them. I will try them tho

To be honest critical defense rounds from what I have personally tested don't expand very consistently like the critical duty does

[GlockRenegade]

Originally Posted by pagj17

Except reloads...

Freaking A!

[R3c0n5n1p3r]

I say pic 1 FMJ ammo shoot it only I shoot 180grain .40 S&W federal rounds , also pick your fav JHP rounds and keep a small amount of them just 4 protection... " not zombie max ammo" also If you have good quality reloads that were purchased very cheap in massive bulk from someone known for reloading , like I did I shoot them and there like factory ammo so it's what ever , who cares about warranty ,glocks will last no matter what but don't feed me warranty crap cuz I have customized polished grinded and worked on my glock the only original parts are barrel , slide, and frame... And I love my glock .... I also have i think a 1985 G22 gen 1 or something that's my grandpas and he shot the same reloads for 20 years, same bag even 2day , and it works like new... I don't even plan on my glock breaking 2 where I can't fix it my self...

[JSStryker]

For carry purposes I use 180gr Hydra-Shoks and for range time I use S&B 180gr FMJ

[g23shooter]

I carry a g23 the best for me is Corbon 135 grain achieves velocity of 1300 + fps with 500 + ft lbs or the Remington GoldDot in 165 both are bonded bullets which is what you want in a defense round. Bullets that are not bonded should in my opinion not be used for defense. 180 gr. is IMO to heavy and two slow to get the adequate penetration when going through multiple layers of clothing or barrcade prior to flesh. As stated by others shot placement is everything and for near instant stop you need CNS disruption otherwise your target will bleed out which may take at least a couple of minutes while they are still probably trying to take you out.