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Old 12-29-2012, 01:06 PM   #41
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There is a design difference between the Glock and the 1911 (surprise, surprise). The 1911 slide stop holds the slide a fraction of an inch from fully to the rear. To release the slide with the slide release allows 99% travel and normally chambers properly. The Glock holds the slide about 1/8" from fully to the rear. Simply pressing down the slide stop can and frequently does cause stoppages. By pulling the slide to the rear and letting it go, allows proper function.

There are many "experienced" shooters that "do it wrong" because they started shooting auto loaders with 1911's
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There is a design difference between the Glock and the 1911 (surprise, surprise). The 1911 slide stop holds the slide a fraction of an inch from fully to the rear. To release the slide with the slide release allows 99% travel and normally chambers properly. The Glock holds the slide about 1/8" from fully to the rear. Simply pressing down the slide stop can and frequently does cause stoppages. By pulling the slide to the rear and letting it go, allows proper function.

There are many "experienced" shooters that "do it wrong" because they started shooting auto loaders with 1911's
So when you say stoppages. Do you mean the slide dose not have enuf momentum to baring it all the way home? Or is there some other problem that can happen?
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The manual for the Kahr PM series states very specifically that the slide stop/release is the preferred method of returning the gun to battery.
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All of my training including the police academy advised to never use the slide stop to release the slide. I use the weak hand to reach over the top and firmly grab the slide to pull it completely back and release. The reason is, as mentioned, gives the slide more momentum when closing. Another reason is the slide stop is small and may be missed or take a lot of effort to release the slide. Lastly, it usually requires a change in grip with your strong hand.
So for casual plinkers, hit the lever. For people who carry and practice for self defense, never touch it. I would say all tactical instructors agree with this technique but I don't know them all.

Back to the Glocks, I have always wanted to try a ghost connector but I carry all of my Glocks. I have avoided it because many say it makes the trigger too light.
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There is a design difference between the Glock and the 1911 (surprise, surprise). The 1911 slide stop holds the slide a fraction of an inch from fully to the rear. To release the slide with the slide release allows 99% travel and normally chambers properly. The Glock holds the slide about 1/8" from fully to the rear. Simply pressing down the slide stop can and frequently does cause stoppages. By pulling the slide to the rear and letting it go, allows proper function.

There are many "experienced" shooters that "do it wrong" because they started shooting auto loaders with 1911's
Glad my 19 isn't like that, it chambers with minimal force. I can actually "ride" the slide forward and it still chambers.

Makes me feel good.
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All of my training including the police academy advised to never use the slide stop to release the slide. I use the weak hand to reach over the top and firmly grab the slide to pull it completely back and release. The reason is, as mentioned, gives the slide more momentum when closing. Another reason is the slide stop is small and may be missed or take a lot of effort to release the slide. Lastly, it usually requires a change in grip with your strong hand.
So for casual plinkers, hit the lever. For people who carry and practice for self defense, never touch it. I would say all tactical instructors agree with this technique but I don't know them all.

Back to the Glocks, I have always wanted to try a ghost connector but I carry all of my Glocks. I have avoided it because many say it makes the trigger too light.
It's always better to do it that way and not use the slide stop. And I am aware that the reason for this is bc you loose motet skills when the S*** gets real. I never use my slide stop anyway to chamber a round bc of this reason. From what has bin said I was under the impression that it would mess up the gun.
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I was told in training that using the sling shot method is also better to put in your muscle memory bc it's the same action you would take to clear a malfunction. Tap, rack, squeeze.
I carry my G19 Gen 3 with a 3.5 lb trigger. It's not too light, it makes it much more like a 1911 trigger IMO. A lot shorter reset as well. Same as a 4 lb 1911 trigger: keep your booger hook off the bang button until you're ready to shoot.
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Thanks for your opinion on the 3.5 trigger. I might get one and put it on my G17 that I don't carry that often and see how it does. I guess if it sucks, I can take it back out
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Sling shot method also transfers to other autoloaders. you can use it on Glock, Sig, Beretta, Colt,....... and it will work on any of them. No figuring out the placement of the slide release on a different gun.
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On my xds I have to use the slide stop to chamber a round. I don't care for that. I believe it's the only gun I own that is like that.
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