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Old 02-17-2013, 02:03 AM   #61
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The Glock is much like a double action revolver. There isn't any safety on one of those is there? And people have been carrying them for many, many years with little to no problems. You sound like you are very well versed in gun safety so I believe you know not to rely on any mechanical safety. The only safety you should be able to rely on is your trained brain. As long as you are confident on your training with the Glock or any other pistol and have top notch equipment (holster) you should have no qualms carrying your Glock chambered.
There is one big difference between a Glock and a DA revolver. When a round is loaded into the chamber of a Glock the firing pin is half cocked. While considered to be DAO, a Glock is not really a double action firearm. It is more like a 1-1/2 action.
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There is one big difference between a Glock and a DA revolver. When a round is loaded into the chamber of a Glock the firing pin is half cocked. While considered to be DAO, a Glock is not really a double action firearm. It is more like a 1-1/2 action.

Your concern is very reasonable.
The Glock type gun debate will go on forever. Way too much emotion involved.
Ignore those that try to make you feel foolish.
Be logical, be reasonable. These are deadly devices.
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There is one big difference between a Glock and a DA revolver. When a round is loaded into the chamber of a Glock the firing pin is half cocked. While considered to be DAO, a Glock is not really a double action firearm. It is more like a 1-1/2 action.
I did say it's much like a revolver not the same and the fact remains that if you do not pull the trigger on either of them, neither will fire. Yes it may take more trigger travel and resistance in a DA revolver but I still maintain that no safety should be relied upon.
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Trigger time. You need to shoot enough to get confident enough to manipulate the gun. In my experience the lack of confidence leads to the trigger finger creeping into the trigger guard. The subconscious nagging feeling of inability makes one try for an "edge". Getting the finger on the trigger gives the impression of a quicker shot.

Look into professional instruction or action sports competition. IPSC/USPSA is great at giving one experience. After 5 or 6 local mtches you will see your confidence level soar.
Bingo...

NRA Action pistol competitions worked extremely well for me.

The pressure of timed and scored strings of fire does not necessarily replicate the stress of rounds coming back at you but, short of an actual fire fight, it's one of the best training options available.

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If you are not comfortable with a round in the chamber then don't do it. If you are OK. We are all individually responsible for our firearms. If you shoot yourself, it's YOUR fault.

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I've carried Glocks for hundreds if not thousands of hours. At every position, with different holsters. They absolutely wont fire unless you put your finger on the trigger. I've done thousands of dry draws and never grab the gun with the trigger finger inside the guard. Practice until you are the same.
Ever admit when you are wrong?

Fingers are not the only thing that can push/pull the trigger. How about your shirt coming untucked going over a fence, then you reholster the gun, and your shirt bunches up in the trigger?

Because we do not live in a perfect world, is why some of us encounter out of the ordinary circumstances.

I bet I have owned my G20 longer than most people on this forum have had a Glock, and one thing I have learned in those twenty plus years, is if you think something cannot ever bite you, it no doubt will. That holds true for anything, not just a Glock.

Here is one example where good intentions can fail.


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Now... is it just me? Or is that the funniest damn home movie EVER!

Poetic Justice at it's finest.

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Ever admit when you are wrong?

Fingers are not the only thing that can push/pull the trigger. How about your shirt coming untucked going over a fence, then you reholster the gun, and your shirt bunches up in the trigger?

Because we do not live in a perfect world, is why some of us encounter out of the ordinary circumstances.

I bet I have owned my G20 longer than most people on this forum have had a Glock, and one thing I have learned in those twenty plus years, is if you think something cannot ever bite you, it no doubt will. That holds true for anything, not just a Glock.

Here is one example where good intentions can fail.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5iIY0zelGI
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Now... is it just me? Or is that the funniest damn home movie EVER!

Poetic Justice at it's finest.

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I see nothing funny in someone getting hurt, unless it is a laurel and hardy rerun.

If one guy getting hurt pleases you, I bet you loved the holocaust.

Any uncontrolled giggles at the Tsunami that hit Japan?

In the video, I think I hear a round clambering. Does not sound like an empty slide to me. Hard to tell on the video, but an unfortunate (not funny) event in a gun safety lecture.
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If you are not comfortable with a round in the chamber then don't do it. If you are OK. We are all individually responsible for our firearms. If you shoot yourself, it's YOUR fault.
Bingo! That appears to be the reasonable answer.
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If you dont like the glock get a different gun. The xdm from springfield has a grip safety. There is also a plethora of da/sa guns where the long heavy first pull acts to help prevent negligent discharge. The beretta 92 series has a safety plus decock function.

If you simply cant wrap your head around it tradeit for a gun your comfy with. Angst will only lead you to leaving it at home and violate the cardinal rule of self defense: have a gun.

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