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Baldpaul 08-05-2009 06:00 AM

Glock 36 ?
 
Good day sirs, New to the Forum, new to Glock. I recently became the proud owner of the GLock 36. I"m a firm believer in knowing all about the gun, back and front before firing, carrying Etc. As a result, I have a problem already. Seem the slide release lever is not working at all. When racked back to lock, I can release by pulling back on rail and releasing, but when the rail is pulled back, I can not release from the side rail button. I tired with/witout magazine, loaded and unloaded, but still NG. Only thing I can figure, is that perhaps initial lubrication on rails and the specified areas are needed.. I've read where several readers have had some problem with tight buttons, but none that haven't worked at all... Any help? Baldpaul....:confused:

dunerunner 08-05-2009 06:15 AM

Welcome to the forum! I'm sure you will get plenty of useful feedback on your purchase.

wolfshead 08-05-2009 06:45 AM

It isn't safe to pull the lever and release the slide. That can cause damage.
You should pull back the rail and ease it forward.

Rentacop 08-06-2009 11:54 AM

Baldpaul-
First of all, the Glock does not have a slide release. It has a "slide lock". That is why there is no good way to get your thumb or finger on it. I can still manage to drop the slide by pressing down on the slide lock but it is the wrong way to do it.

Pull the slide all the way to the rear. If chambering a round, let it fly forward. If dropping it on an empty chamber, you can ride it down to avoid any unnecessary wear and tear. I'm told that dropping it on an empty chamber won't hurt a Glock anyway, though.

There are aftermarket slide release levers made for Glocks. The problem is that releasing a slide in this way is less reliable because the slide starts out slightly forward and thus has less oomph available to seat the round being chambered.

It is best, according to Clint Smith, to forget about slide releases. Simply pulling the slide and letting go works on all semi-autos.

CyberMan 08-13-2009 01:08 AM

Please tell more about the G36
 
Baldpaul:
I can see that your post is from Aug 2009. I was planning to get a G36 for daily carry (CCW), but I have read a lot negative about this gun on the Internet. However, they are older posts and not from 2009. Something very bad I read about this gun is from 2006 at StoppingPower.net Forums - Glock 36 woes
It would be very nice if you could share your experiences about this gun and tell how it shoots. Hopefully they have fixed the problems existing in older generations, and then I should get one directly. Thanks for your help :)

Baldpaul 08-13-2009 05:23 PM

Cyberman. I wish could give a definitive answer or reply. Fact is, I've only shot about 150 rounds through it so far. I have NOT had any feeding problems so far using the Magnetech 235 Ball ammo. I recently bought a box of Winchester 235 Ball, but haven't work through it yet. As far as accuracy, I'm the last person you want to ask for that. I'm in the learning stages as you can see by some of my previous posts. I am getting better tho. Help by the members here and a few of the police officers I have contact with, have helped. I figure it takes a lot of miles to become proficient. I would LOVE, however, to see someone who is good, shoot mine to get real good groups, so I get convinced its me rather than the gun... Paul

Rentacop 08-13-2009 05:34 PM

Baldpaul-
You say you don't shoot well yet...Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good show. Most people can't shoot a pistol well, BTW. I shoot pretty well at the range but on the Internet, describing my shooting, I never, ever miss (LOL).

Try the bump drill : Aim in and keep pressing the trigger and releasing it until you accidentally fire a shot. Then you'll see what a surprise break is. Don't thank me-thank Bruce Gray of Sigarms...

Here's a link to Bruce Gray's bump drill video :
http://www.downrange.tv/videos/bruce-gray.htm

Baldpaul 08-13-2009 06:04 PM

Rentacop, Believe me! I'm not above ANY suggestions and tips when it comes to better shooting. I've even talked to several officers I know who are looking at info on basic handgun training for me. I do my best to soak up ever bit of information I can. I don't believe in carrying until I'm ready to use my weapon properly..And I try every tip I'm given, to weigh the results for myself..Thanks. Paul

Dillinger 08-13-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Baldpaul (Post 143792)
Rentacop, Believe me! I'm not above ANY suggestions and tips when it comes to better shooting. I've even talked to several officers I know who are looking at info on basic handgun training for me. I do my best to soak up ever bit of information I can. I don't believe in carrying until I'm ready to use my weapon properly..And I try every tip I'm given, to weigh the results for myself..Thanks. Paul

You have a great attitude about it paul, I wish everyone felt as you did, we would be in the news A LOT less as a community.

Best of luck in your hunt!

JD

NGIB 08-13-2009 06:44 PM

Copied this from a huge thread from TFL. Interesting read as many folks think the slingshot method is "mandated" by manufacturers...

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Geez, heaven forbid you use a part lest it gets worn. I have a news flash for you all, every time a part gets used, any part on your gun, it gets worn. Sure, over time, the part may wear out. On a properly made gun where the part is being used as designed, however, wearing out the part should take a very long period of time. I have a 1911 with 100K rounds through it and I am on the original slide stop/release/catch and I use it to release the slide probably 75% of the time. So I have thousands and thousands of slide releases performed on this gun and it still functions as designed.

As noted, some guns may not be designed this way and that was the reason for the thread, to learn what guns were and were not designed to use the part as a slide release as stipulated by the manufacturer.

I am now looking up manuals online. Initially, I did not think to do this. Apparently there are a lot out there and many or most cover the use of the part in question.

The following guns can use said part to release the slide and chamber a round according to the manufacturer....
Glock p. 7-8 Glock Manual 17, 17L, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24
Beretta 92 p. 14 http://www.rangereport.com/guns/bere.../92_series.pdf
Sig P200s Pistols p. 8 (and they call it a slide catch but state it can be used to release the slide http://www.pishtov.com/SIGSAUER/SIGARMS_Classic_OM.pdf
Kahr http://www.kahr.com/DL/kahrmanual.pdf
Bersa Thunder 45 p. 14 http://www.kahr.com/DL/kahrmanual.pdf
Bersa Thunder 9 p. 14 http://www.bersafirearmsusa.com/pdf/manual45940.pdf
1911s p. 14 Basic Field Manual FM 23-35
Ruger SR9 p. 20 Instructional Manual for Ruger Sr9 Manual Safety Model Pistol_caliber 9mm Parabellum(9mm x 19)
Ruger P series p. 17 http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIR...ual_safety.pdf
HK45 p. 29 (note that in the manual it is referred to as a slide stop and slide release depending on how it is functioning. It is a slide stop when it holds the slide open after firing the last round of a magazine, but a slide release when used to allow the slide to return to battery) http://www.kerensky.net/pdf/hk45.pdf
Taurus p. 17 http://users.swing.be/ctc/pdf/taurus.pdf
Browning Hi Power p. 10 http://www.gunmanuals.ch/source02b/hipowermanual.pdf
IMI p. 17 http://www.gunmanuals.ch/source02b/O...nual%20DEP.pdf
Walther P22 p. 7 http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...USA_Manual.pdf

Not stated, but probably should not be used to release the slide...
Ruger LCP, the part is called the Manual Slide Hold Open and is described as being released by drawing back on the slide Instructional Manual for Ruger Lcp Light Weight Compact Pistol_caliber .380 Auto
Hi Point C9, also called a hold open where hold open is released by pulling back on the slide as with the LCP http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/manuals/C-9_CF380.pdf

Issue not resolved by the manual...
Walther PPK/PPKS Describes using sling shot method, but then also warns that if the slide is released using the slide stop when a loaded mag is in the gun, it will chamber a round http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...r/PPK_PPKs.pdf

Thusfar, I have not found one manual that explicitly states NOT to use the part to release the slide to load a round into the chamber. Interestingly and contrary to what I had learned from various folks over the years, just because it is called a slide stop seems to have no bearing on it being used as a slide release as several manufacturers call it a slide stop and also state that it can be used to release the slide to chamber a round.


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The Ruger Mark .22 series.....Ruger repaired my Mark II and explicitly stated to not use the slide stop as a release

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Which is what I think happened to my Ruger MK II that I mentioned above

While interesting, not relevant to the thread. What may have worn out on your Ruger MK II had nothing to do with a slide stop/release/catch. The Ruger MK II does not have a slide, so there is no part that holds the slide open. What you have is a "bolt stop."


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