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Glock_Rookie 07-31-2007 01:42 PM

Complete Rookie - Could Someone help??
 
I'm brand new to this forum and to firearms in general.

My husband bought me a new Glock 21 this past weekend and then he had to leave for work out of state. Here's the sum total of what I know: Where the trigger is and what the magazine and grip are. I feel like a complete idiot. I need to know how to use the Glock. I don't know where the safety is, I'm lost.

Can someone please HELP me?? ASAP! (There are no firearms training places or shooting ranges within 2 hours of me). And yes, I really do need it for self-protection.

Thanks in advance,
Glock_Rookie

allmons 07-31-2007 03:01 PM

Hello, Glock Rookie!
 
Glock handguns were designed to be like the old police revolvers - you load the gun, squeeze the trigger and it will fire. There are no visible external safeties. The safety " catch " is missing on the Glock because there are some built-in internal safeties. The primary safety is built into the trigger itself.

Please take the magazine out of the gun ( newbies call them "clips", but that is incorrect). The gun can still fire! Do NOT put your finger on the trigger! Point the gun in a safe direction ( if you are not on the second story, the floor is a good place - be careful not to point it at your own toes).

Carefully pull the slide back to make sure that there is no cartridge (bullet) in the chamber ( be sure you took the magazine out before this step). If there is a round in the chamber, it will be ejected when you pull the slide back. Take all loaded cartridges (bullets) and the magazine and move them away from the gun. Pull the slide back again until you are sure there are no bullets in the gun.

Point the gun in a safe direction after you are SURE it is empty and gently squeeze the trigger. You will note that there is a second "trigger" inside the main trigger. This is one of the internal safeties. As your finger takes up the slack, the trigger stiffens slightly, then you will hear the "click" of the striker moving forward under spring tension. This would have fired the gun if you had not removed the cartridges.

Note how "flat" the spring trigger feels now. There is no spring tension. Once the slide is moved to the rear, the gun automatically recocks itself.

Remember the cardinal rule of firearms - do not put your finger in the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot.

As with all semi automatic ( self loading, if you will ) firearms, to load the weapon you must put cartridges into the magazine, which is then inserted into the weapon firmly. Pointing the pistol in a safe direction, pull the slide back sharply and release. DO NOT EVER PULL THE SLIDE BACK WHILE YOUR FINGER IS IN THE TRIGGER GUARD. The pistol is now loaded and WILL fire even if the magazine is out of the weapon.

With the Glock, it is important to keep all items out of the trigger guard until you are ready to fire. Once loaded, it is only necessary to point and squeeze.

The 21 is .45 ACP, which has some recoil. The polymer frame of the Glock absorbs a good deal of this recoil, but it still quite noticeable.

This is a VERY brief overview and you should still get some range time with the weapon ASAP. In the mean time, review the manual that comes with the Glock and BE SAFE.

allmons 07-31-2007 03:16 PM

OH! And Welcome aboard!
 
Nothing makes firearms people happier than welcoming new members to the group. Please feel free to ask all the questions you want. It is true that there are no dumb questions, and I find I learn even more when I answer questions. It helps me learn more about one of my favorite subjects.

And one last point about Glock pistols - the magazines hold anywhere from 10 to 17 rounds and will fire every time you pull the trigger, until the gun is empty. There is no external hammer, but the slide moves rearward with great force when the weapon is fired.

Glock_Rookie 07-31-2007 08:05 PM

More Basic Questions from the Rookie
 
allmons,
Thanks so much for getting me started. The Glock is brand new but didn't come with a manual. I'll call the store and ask about a manual, box, etc. The magazine is loaded but it is not in the gun....wait a minute - the movie, Forest Gump said a gun is for fun. This is a weapon.

Here's a basic question for you ... you said it's a .45 ACP. What's ACP? (something caliber pistol??)

When I tried to load the bullets into the magazine I could only get 9 in the magazine, but the magazine has small holes with numbers 1 through 10 and you mentioned that it holds 10 rounds.

Next - there's a small "latch/button" on the side of the gun my husband said I have to push up in order to pull back the slide (I'm guessing that's what it's called). I'm having a really hard time pushing it up and when I do get it pushed upward it takes literally all my strength to pull the slide back. (I am right-handed and had an auto accident several years ago that left my right arm, hand and shoulder rather weak.).

Is there a trick to pulling the slide back more easily? It took me 8 tries to pull it back/open. If I'm in a situation where I need to protect myself, I won't have the luxury of 2 full minutes to open the slide. That's why he opened it for me and it will be kept open. All I should have to do is load the magazine and pull the trigger, correct?

Thanks again and please be patient with me. I'm 49 years old so I'm old enough to be careful and treat the Glock as though it's always loaded. I'm not afraid of it, I just want to know without a doubt that I can handle it properly if the situation ever arrives.

Rookie

allmons 07-31-2007 08:20 PM

The magazine holds the rounds
 
You insert the magazine into the gun firmly. If your husbans left the slide "open", shoving the magazine in firmly will usually slam the slide shut on the Glock. That small lever is a "slide stop" designed only to hold the slide open. If the slide is all the way back, ie "open", then all you need do is push the lever straight down. The slide will close with some force.

Question # 2 - There was a .45 caliber bullet in a long catridge case that was carried by many cavalry officers. The .45 had very good stopping power, but the case was too long for an automatic pistol. Ergo, the .45 caliber bullet was put in a shorter case with a little rim at the base so that the extractor of the pistol could grasp it securely and eject free from the gun. To signify the difference, the designation ACP ( automatic cartidge, pistol) was utilized. Nowadays we call the original .45 revolver/rifle cartridge the ".45 long".

This is a very brief and poorly explained history, but suffice it to say that the .45 caliber bullet has been proven to be one whale of a man stopper over the last 110 years or so.

:)

unkawill 07-31-2007 10:20 PM

I'm sorry that you live in a place where you have to protect yourself.
At least you realize that the police can't protect you, they are only there to file the reports after the crime.

Good for you, that you are doing somthing to protect yourself.
You, at a minimum need to go some place to get aquainted with your Glock.

You never want to be in the situation of having to use your weapon the first time to stop a crime or defend yourself.

allmons 07-31-2007 11:14 PM

Sadly, recent events prove there is no "safe" place.
 
The home invasion, robbery and murder of the doctor's family recently in the news shows that there is no longer any place safe.

Keep your doors locked and keep a ready weapon nearby. There may not be any zombies out there, but monstrous scum still walk the earth. We have got to start shooting these people when they invade our homes.

Dead criminals are not repeat offenders.

:cool:


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