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Old_Brewer 03-01-2008 04:48 AM

9 mm Browning Long vs 9x19mm Parabellum
 
Has anyone tried shooting 9 mm Browning Long ammo in a Glock?
Here is a wiki spec sheet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9mm

Thanks

BillM 03-01-2008 05:42 AM

The rim might fit, but that .046" longer case would probably be a problem.
I doubt that it would go completely into battery. If you had a Glock in
9x21 the extractor would likely hold it tight enough to fire.
Where are you going to get any 9mm Browning Long ammo? I've never
seen any.

Bill

Old_Brewer 03-01-2008 12:58 PM

Hi Bill thanks for the reply.

http://www.centuryarms.biz/products.asp?cat=11&pg=3

Product ID: AM964
9mm Browning Long (108 GR.) Details & Associated Product Family
Boxer primed, Non-Corrosive. 50 rds./box, 1000 rds./case. Price per box.
Price: $6.55

I've bought quite a bit of ammo from Century International Arms, in the past.
They have good prices and reasonable shipping costs. There ammo is good.
I finally bought a 9mm, and I haven't reloaded any ammo, yet. I thought a bulk buy on ammo would be a good idea, but I don't want to buy 1000 rounds if they won't shoot!

I've been buying Winchester ammo at Wal-Mart for about $17/100 after taxes.

Thanks

BillM 03-01-2008 02:14 PM

That's a pretty good price! I'm tempted to buy a case, and chamber
a spare barrel for one of my G17's deeper for the Browning Long cartridge.

Not sure if that extra .012" of rim diameter would be a problem. Guess I
need to do a little measuring before I jump on the idea.

Bill

Old_Brewer 03-01-2008 02:55 PM

You might want to use this link to find a dealer near you:

http://www.centuryarms.biz/DealerLocator.asp

Maybe they would buy a case and sell you a box.

I also did the math:

The head spacing could be an issue, as the case is .006 is shorter than the 9x19.

The OAL is .069 longer than the 9x19. edit: My reloading data shows 9x19 OAL ranging from 1.010" to 1.120".

I'm going to the local gun shop & see what they think.

matt g 03-01-2008 04:34 PM

Your Glock is chambered in 9x19mm. I'd suggest sticking with the ammo that the pistol was designed to fire, especially because it's a Glock. Glocks tend to become bombs when exposed to anything over their SAAMI speced chamber pressures.

Old_Brewer 03-01-2008 05:07 PM

Thanks

I agree. I've spent the morning following links. I want to keep my Glock in one piece, not like those blown up ones.

BillM 03-01-2008 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt g (Post 17908)
Your Glock is chambered in 9x19mm. I'd suggest sticking with the ammo that the pistol was designed to fire, especially because it's a Glock. Glocks tend to become bombs when exposed to anything over their SAAMI speced chamber pressures.

Glock 9x19 pistols have been factory chambered in 9x21 for the Italian and
other markets that forbid 9x19.

BillM 03-01-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_Brewer (Post 17903)
You might want to use this link to find a dealer near you:

http://www.centuryarms.biz/DealerLocator.asp

Maybe they would buy a case and sell you a box.

I also did the math:

The head spacing could be an issue, as the case is .006 is shorter than the 9x19.

The OAL is .069 longer than the 9x19. edit: My reloading data shows 9x19 OAL ranging from 1.010" to 1.120".

I'm going to the local gun shop & see what they think.

OK--now I'm confused. According to the link that YOU provided, the 9mm
Browning Long is:

.046" longer case
.012" larger rim
.007" smaller case base
.004" smaller neck
.059" shorter OAL

compared to the 9x19. The first two----case length and rim diameter,
are what would possibly prevent the 9mm Browning Long firing in a 9x19
gun.

Old_Brewer 03-02-2008 12:36 PM

The 9x19 case length is .754"
The "Long" case length is .800"
The difference is only .006"

I agree with the rim difference.

This is the main reason why I'm not going to try this substitution:

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

Also, I've been buying Winchester ammo at Wal-Mart for about $17/100 after taxes. The price difference is only about $2/100. The Wal-Mart price went up about 3 weeks ago in Ohio. I plan on buying a few boxes, before the prices go up in Texas. (Unless they already have.)

PS The OAL is .069 longer than the 9x19. edit: My reloading data shows 9x19 OAL ranging from 1.010" to 1.120".


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