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Old12-04-2010, 04:30 AM #31
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If a person does not have the sense to be able to handle an air soft weapon properly they sure as hell are not getting anywhere near my stuff.I could give a crap what it does for their feelings. If your friends have any respect for you then they will make sure to learn what they apparently do not know.

An air soft weapon can hurt someone sure but real firearms can do a lot more damage. I'd just as well not be in the picture when the lack of respect of a given weapon shows just what can happen when one does not show it the proper respect.

For me it's simple..I'll take one or two ticked off friends over a dead one any day..
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Entirely unacceptable. It doesn't make them bad people, just irresponsible as many have stated already.

Part of being a responsible gun owner is keeping them out of the hands of folks around you that are irresponsible and don't respect them....even if it means hurt feelings. I've lost a few friends because I cared more for my/others safety than I did for their feelings.

As Nicholas Cage told Sean Connery in " The Rock "......." The minute you don't respect this, it kills you."

And whoever else happens to be in the line of fire.

I'm confident you'll make the right decision.
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If you don't think you can trust them.... then dont! There aregood friends that I won't take for that reason.
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I stopped going to the local handgun indoor range because of the same lunacy. I have no problems posting their name either. The indoor range at "SHOOTERS CHOICE" in West Columbia,SC is most unsafe place I have been when it comes to firearms safety. I was there with my daughter about a year ago on ladies day. We were firing a Bersa .380 I was thinking about giving her for home protection in her apartment. I happened to look over to my left and there was an old guy supposedly showing his wife how to load and shoot a Colt .45. He had the muzzle pointed at us. I hollered over and asked him not to point his pistol at us. He replied in a smart alleck ghetto tone. "You're goina be alright "and didn't budge. I got my daughter and equipment and moved down about six lanes to get away from the guy. He then stepped back to show his wife something and again pointed his pistol in our direction. We picked up our stuff and left. When we were getting our time stamped by the range master he asked why we were leaving so soon. I told him the idiot next to us kept sweeping us with the muzzle of his pistol. He laughed and said "It's no big deal he's not going to shoot you ...he doesn't even know you"...My jaw almost hit the floor. I got my stuff and told the guy I will never set foot on his range again. When you walk in to their range area there is a 50 caliber pistol slug sticking in the bullet resistant plexi glass. It is there from their earlier range master that fired a 50 cal pistol. He did not have a decent grip on it and it recoiled and fired the next round through his forehead killing him instantly. This was on a Tuesday evening...he was supposed to be married to a local lady deputy sheriff on Thursday of that same week. Apparently they have not learned anything from that trajedy.
Don't tolerate IDIOTS that handle firearms unsafely...all you have to loose is you life or the life of your loved ones. I can not believe that there are people this dumb walking the streets.
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Sir, Friends or not, guns of any type are dangerous if people do not treat them with respect. If you can not explain to your friends how important it is to act mature around any weapon, then do yourself and your life a favor, keep them away from any weapon you own. Nuff Said.
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From what you are saying, I think you know the answer.
If you feel he can't be trusted, then you know what to do.

I know it would be tough, but, firearms are life and death.
Very well said, Amoroque! The answer is obvious.

As gun owners, we constantly see people trying to take away our gun ownership rights. Every time there is a gun related accident, we give anti-gunners more "ammo" to attack our rights. We all have a responsibility to ensure gun safety rules are followed.
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Nice responses to this question. I applaud the responders. These are the types of people you want to have around you when you have guns of any kind out. Glad I joined this forum, I've seen others with people talking about drinking and gunning together - so I left.
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I have a zero-tolerance policy. I've been shooting for 50 years, including combat, and I have a range on my property. Beginners get the lecture and steely-eyed up-close supervision, close enough to take the weapon from them in an instant. With my kids, even the slightest safety breach, even with a BB gun, was a royal-ass-chewing and immediate confiscation. Anybody who screws around with a firearm, even an airsoft gun, needs to be kept away from a trigger.
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I would restrict their access to your "real" firearms until they can prove with no exception that they take the handling of firearms seriously! (Warning: There may be no cure for stupidity.) If they don't learn and take firearms seriously don't do firearms around them or get new friends.

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Please bare with me through my story so I can get to my question.

So me and my best friends airsoft pretty regularly. The problem that I am having with them though is that they will NOT practice firearm safety! I am constantly telling them to stop pointing the guns at my face, and most of the time im not even wearing eye protection when they do it I also tell them that they're going to end up pulling the trigger on accident and really do some damage (I have a scar just above my eye that bled for an entire day, but thats another story). Still won't listen. Well tonight I found out that one of them did indeed point the gun at his own brother and accidently pulled the trigger. Shot him right in the chest The damage was minimal, but the this is where the problem comes in.

I own actual firearms, and like to take people with the range to me. I can't stop thinking about how if we were at an actual range, and he was next to me, he would have put a 40 S&W right into the center of my chest.

So the question I pose to everybody is... Is it wrong of me to completely restrict my friend from gun use? especially of my own firearms. I feel he can't be trusted. But I don't want to over react. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I take my firearms VERY seriously!!

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(Warning: There may be no cure for stupidity.)
I remember my Drill Sergeant in Basic Training once saying something along the lines of "Ignorance is curable. Stupidity is usually terminal."

I have been a lifelong shooter, and have been playing paintball since the late 80's and have dabbled in Airsoft. The one thing your friend seems to not grasp is that the habits we pick up in any shooting related activity are very likely to carry over into the others. Careless with Airsoft means careless with the real thing, despite good intentions.

I'm with the others on here. If someone I know couldn't show they were safe even with Airsoft (or in my case paintball) pieces, I would not let them shoot anything of mine, and would not go to a shooting range with them. I would try to be nice about it, but if I had to be blunt, I would.
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