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Old 03-05-2012, 05:24 PM   #11
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,50 caliber...is a whole different story.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
While the video is scary and impressive it leaves many questions. Like, what did the target look like? Was it somehow the "perfect storm" target that tossed it back up-range? I would love to know what happened simply so that I do not make the same mistake in building my targets, because that is probaly what it was. A mistake in target design, or perhaps using the wrong type of projectile. I could be wrong though.
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Isn't that a disc? Those are dish shaped and curved aren't they? Some time ago I tried using a curved dozer blade as a backstop 9.22 long rifle) and got a lot of shrapnel coming back at the bench for the few rounds we fired (you could hear it flying past). I have no reason to believe it was anything that would seriously injure us but we stopped using it.

More recently we made a couple of gong targets out of flat steel plates (1/2" and 5/8 inch thick steel plate) hanging from a frame by chains. The first one is 6"X5", my son tested it out at 50 yards and 100 yards shooting CCI 20 grain FMJ .17 HMR out of a Savage Model 93R17FV. He got cratering in the target on all shots at both distances. The deepest craters are about 1/16th" deep and 1/4" wide. We will be welding the craters up and grinding them flat again in the next few days. We will not be shooting the .17 HMR at steel any more in the future (whole lot of energy in that little rascal!).

We did shoot FMJ and some old HD hollowpoints in .40S&W and cast lead .38 Special (or was it .357 mag?) both of which did not mar the steel surface in the slightest at 30 yards.

We did not have any fallout at the bench from any of the rounds fired.

This is a picture of the target before it was tested.
Yes it is a disc. We were shooting at the side curved away from us but I shot at the other side when it spun around from a couple shots. We could see the shrapnel hitting all around straight down on the gravel
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While the video is scary and impressive it leaves many questions. Like, what did the target look like? Was it somehow the "perfect storm" target that tossed it back up-range? I would love to know what happened simply so that I do not make the same mistake in building my targets, because that is probaly what it was. A mistake in target design, or perhaps using the wrong type of projectile. I could be wrong though.
I have no clue as to what those guys were up to. Looks like they were just taking an impromptu video. Their reactions all seem genuine. If it were staged I would think there would be contrived excitement type reactions....they all seem a littlle stunned.
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I have no clue as to what those guys were up to. Looks like they were just taking an impromptu video. Their reactions all seem genuine. If it were staged I would think there would be contrived excitement type reactions....they all seem a littlle stunned.
I don't really doubt the authenticity of the video, I would like to know more about why it happened.
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Frangeibles : nuff said
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I simply follow the established rules in IPSC that a minimum distance of 8m be used for shooting steel.
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I was hit with a ricochett from a 45 using ball ammo shooting against a tree. It didnt penetrate, but it left a bruise. I still have the bullit. To this day, I wonder how that tree shot me back, but I learned my lesson No more trees.
As for steel, I shot the hell out of a 3/4 piece of scrapr at about 100 yards with a 223, and the rounds just pop. A 300 win mag on the same target blew a hole through the size of a quarter.
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I have 2 steel plates 1/2 in thick cut in 6x6 squares, both hung on shepherd hooks with the hole drilled in the steel allowing it to swing when hit. At 25 feet with a .22, 38 sp, 9mm and .40 s&w we have not had anything coming back at us. I would not shoot steel that is static mounted, in my experience the steel target needs to be able to move when hit, even a .22 will slightly move a steel plate.
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