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Old 02-28-2014, 04:09 PM   #11
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I know that we were extensively taught about squibs in Basic rifle marksmanship except they called them pop no kicks. I was luck to have several individually assigned weapons that I carried everywhere so I could switch to something else not every soldier has a secondary weapon. Depending on the type of unit you are in it is very likely you will just have an M16/M4. I mean I guess it is situational if you have a secondary or tertiary weapon use that. If not and a buddies rifle is laying there cause he was wounded use that. If you have someone who is carrying a secondary grab that from them and stay in the fight. Is there an unmanned crew served weapon nearby hop in that and charlie mike. Are the enemy close enough for hand to hand? Use my e tool or knife and hope I kill them first and relieve them of the weapon they are carrying. If you are in a relatively safe fighting position with others keeping up fire grab your cleaning kit and run the rod down the barrel. I mean the options are endless. FWIW I have never seen nor heard of this happening in combat.

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Defensive maneuver:
1. Quickly get to a sitting position, with your knees bent.
2. Keeping your back straight, bend forward from the hips.
3. Grab your ankles, and
4. Kiss your a$$ goodbye.

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This is why plastic guns are a bad idea. I'd rather have a nice heavy piece of steel in my hand that could at least be used for club.

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This is why plastic guns are a bad idea. I'd rather have a nice heavy piece of steel in my hand that could at least be used for club.
shoot I would jack you up with my M4 especially if it was already inop I would'nt care about a bent buffer tube I would just be like "BUTTSTROKE TO THE HEAD, MOVE" just like in basic. Worst case scenario my e tool was always sharp and i could damn near decapitate someone using that
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Well the firefights I have been in there was no shortage of 'weapons'. If one of your guys is down use his. If you are at CQ use one of theirs.
Frags are a last resort, but they do work well if you have the guts to cook them off !
I had a 45 with two extra mags on me even while I carried a 16.

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If I were lucky enough to NOTICE the squib load:

1) Seek better cover
2) Assess (are more weapons available? If this is a civilian defensive shooting, try to disengage - I probably will never carry a BUG as a civilian)

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The most important part of this is to recognize the symptoms of a squib load. That may be a real problem in a firefight. I carry a BUG, but I don't know if I'd recognize the low report and low recoil of a squib load if I were rapid-firing quickly enough to stop the next trigger pull in time. I hope I would.
Maybe the answer is to slow down and carefully aim the shots, which would allow time to react to a squib load. Also, one careful and accurate shot beats 5 panicky hurried shots any day. I hope my efforts in practice can be carried over to a real event if it ever happens.

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The most important part of this is to recognize the symptoms of a squib load. That may be a real problem in a firefight. I carry a BUG, but I don't know if I'd recognize the low report and low recoil of a squib load if I were rapid-firing quickly enough to stop the next trigger pull in time. I hope I would.
Maybe the answer is to slow down and carefully aim the shots, which would allow time to react to a squib load. Also, one careful and accurate shot beats 5 panicky hurried shots any day. I hope my efforts in practice can be carried over to a real event if it ever happens.
You should be only shooting if you have a 'target' to begin with!!!
If you are in the 'spray and pray' mode it will not matter if you have a weapons malfunction anyway!
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You should be only shooting if you have a 'target' to begin with!!!
If you are in the 'spray and pray' mode it will not matter if you have a weapons malfunction anyway!
Agreed. I've not been in a firefight as a civilian, and make every effort to avoid such. I do carry a BUG, and would use it if I recognized a squib load. Your point is well taken, I've been concerned about that and worked to be able to slow down and control my shots, especially since reading about the incidents in which the NYPD officers sprayed-n-prayed and hit a bunch of innocent bystanders.
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