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JimDuncan 10-24-2007 06:09 PM

Speed vs Accuracy
 
Why is accuracy more important than speed in firearms training?

cpttango30 10-24-2007 07:43 PM

Because it does matter how fast you can shoot at a bad guy if you can not hit him.

If you shoot 24" groups at 5sec but you shoot 8" groups at 7.5 seconds then you are 3 times more likely to hit your target.

Bidah 10-24-2007 08:19 PM

A fast miss is worse than a slow hit.. :)

-Bidah

oldandslow 10-31-2007 03:25 AM

Jim,


Good question. In firearms training there is a natural progression from the basics to the advanced, which I list as follows:

1. Safety- before speed or accuracy there must be safety. You'd be
surprised at the dangerous / unsafe things untrained shooters do
every day at the range or in the woods. When there is a shooting
accident all shooters suffer as the anti-gun nuts try and place more
restrictions on those of us who use firearms safely.

2. Accuracy- If you can't hit what you are aiming at there is no use
owning or using a firearm. One needs to train how to hit one or more targets multiple times from different shooting positions, preferably with some low light shooting thrown in as well since many defensive shootings occur during periods of low-lighting.

3. Speed will come naturally as you build up muscle memory. Training
with someone else who is proficient or training at one of the many fine
training schools is a great way to realize your full potential for both
accuracy and speed.


I hope this helps.

Best wishes- oldandslow

matt g 10-31-2007 06:51 AM

One well placed shot will do a hell of a lot more than 10 really fast shots.

MostlyGenius 11-09-2007 10:11 AM

I think it was Wyatt Earp who said
 
"Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. Learn to take your time in a hurry."

G21.45 05-28-2008 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 11249)
Good question. In firearms training there is a natural progression from the basics to the advanced, which I list as follows:

1. Safety - Before speed or accuracy there must be safety. You'd be surprised at the dangerous/unsafe things untrained shooters do every day at the range or in the woods. When there is a shooting accident all shooters suffer as the anti-gun nuts try and place more restrictions on those of us who use firearms safely.

2. Accuracy - If you can't hit what you are aiming at there is no use owning or using a firearm. One needs to train how to hit one or more targets multiple times from different shooting positions, preferably with some low light shooting thrown in as well since many defensive shootings occur during periods of low-lighting.

3. Speed will come naturally as you build up muscle memory. Training with someone else who is proficient or training at one of the many fine training schools is a great way to realize your full potential for both accuracy and speed.

I hope this helps.

Hey that is, really, a very good reply!

Now if we could just get you to post while keeping your thumb off the damned space bar. (Because it makes it very difficult to quote you!) ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt g (Post 11255)
One well placed shot will do a hell of a lot more than 10 really fast shots.

NOT if you want to make the guy dance! :p

h&k bigdaddydieseldan 05-28-2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt g (Post 11255)
One well placed shot will do a hell of a lot more than 10 really fast shots.

Well said Matt couldn't have said it any better myself :cool::cool::cool:

Rob Pincus 06-19-2008 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt g:
One well placed shot will do a hell of a lot more than 10 really fast shots.
FWIW, I would say that there is some significant information missing from that statement....

If the 10 really fast shots are placed "well enough" and fired more quickly than the 1 well placed shot, then they are, objectively, better.

This is one of the problems with these types of discussions. If the assumption is that "fast" shots miss, then they ARE worthless... but we could also make the assumption that a "well placed" shot could take too long in a realistic setting and therefore it is also useless if you're already fatally wounded (or the person you are trying to protect is).

There needs to be a Balance Between Speed & Precision and statements made in regard to speed and accuracy should be qualified and complete to really mean anything. It is not something that should be over-simplified.

Here is a link to my podcast, there is an episode discussing this topic that can be found there: Combat Focus Podcast

-RJP

blackdiamond13 06-26-2008 11:15 AM

are there any hand eye exercises one can do to improve accuracy, say, when you're waiting for a bus, or even sitting on a bus?


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