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I don't wear glasses though and I'd rather not have to accessorize myself in order to see & shoot accurately. In the case of ChainFire, I understand the need being dominant eye/hand "inverted".
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Glasses are a part of life for me. Then, again, I went to school with Moses. (though he was two grades ahead of me)
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05-07-2012, 08:53 PM
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Well I shoot paper right now but we all know what guns can be used for, and usually it'll be a moving target in a moving environment so I totally get the use of having 2 eyes open. It's just something that I'm not used to yet and I was basically asking what's the goal, force my brain to suppress the double vision or learn how to ignore it. That's why I was asking how you guys see through your sights.
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I was taught "both eyes open" from the beginning. It's a big advantage hunting white tail in the timber of Eastern Washington.
With my dominant eye behind the scope and both eyes open, I get a full field of view and my crosshairs are superimposed on my target. I occasionally get the double vision thing but quickly closing and opening my non dominant eye usually stops it.
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05-07-2012, 09:20 PM
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I was taught "both eyes open" from the beginning. It's a big advantage hunting white tail in the timber of Eastern Washington.
With my dominant eye behind the scope and both eyes open, I get a full field of view and my crosshairs are superimposed on my target. I occasionally get the double vision thing but quickly closing and opening my non dominant eye usually stops it.
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That almost sounds like a video game lol! So basically you have a clear picture with both eyes open and you don't see two targets?
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05-07-2012, 10:44 PM
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Both eyes open. At first, I just ignored the "other" set of sights. After awhile I just didn't see them anymore. I've done the same with my AR, which has a 4x optic on it. It's really pretty amazing, you can train your brain to recognize only the magnified reticle. With practice, you can change between eyes. Lots of practice.
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05-07-2012, 10:56 PM
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I wear glasses (and I hope others wear some eye protection, too).
Try a cloudy tape on the non-dominant eye lens when on the range. The clear image will be from the dominant eye.
With practice, the tape will not be needed on the non-dominant eye lens of your eye protection when you are in the field.
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05-07-2012, 11:04 PM
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Both eyes open. At first, I just ignored the "other" set of sights. After awhile I just didn't see them anymore. I've done the same with my AR, which has a 4x optic on it. It's really pretty amazing, you can train your brain to recognize only the magnified reticle. With practice, you can change between eyes. Lots of practice.
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Yesterday I was watching a new TV series (24 season 8) and I was aiming and shooting (snap caps) with both eyes for like 3 hours, trying to aim at the character's eyes lol. I'm really trying to force my brain to ignore the wrong image and your information was very valuable! Now I know that theoretically it's possible to ignore and even suppress the wrong image.
danf_fl, I read about that method and I'll try it if I have a hard time.
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05-07-2012, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndAmendmentFreedom
Yesterday I was watching a new TV series (24 season 8) and I was aiming and shooting (snap caps) with both eyes for like 3 hours, trying to aim at the character's eyes lol. I'm really trying to force my brain to ignore the wrong image and your information was very valuable! Now I know that theoretically it's possible to ignore and even suppress the wrong image.
danf_fl, I read about that method and I'll try it if I have a hard time.
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Glad to help. There is an actual name for the technique, but it escapes me.
Dry firing snap caps is the way I finally got it down.
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05-08-2012, 02:19 AM
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That almost sounds like a video game lol! So basically you have a clear picture with both eyes open and you don't see two targets?
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Exactly...I will occasionally see the side of my scope but a quick blink clears it up. I've know people who swear they can't do this. I think the level of how much 1 eye dominates the other is different in everyone so it comes easier to some than to others. I also know that it was very difficult for me at first but my dad trained it into me by having me snap shoot milk cartons offhand with both eyes open. Initially ranges were 10 to 20 yards but before long I was drilled them out to 100 yard and it's been pretty easy ever since.
Good Luck
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05-08-2012, 02:31 AM
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That almost sounds like a video game lol! So basically you have a clear picture with both eyes open and you don't see two targets?
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Exactly...I will occasionally see the side of my scope but a quick blink clears it up. I've know people who swear they can't do this. I think the level of how much 1 eye dominates the other is different in everyone so it comes easier to some than to others. I also know that it was very difficult for me at first but my dad trained it into me by having me snap shoot milk cartons offhand with both eyes open. Initially ranges were 10 to 20 yards but before long I was drilled them out to 100 yard and it's been pretty easy ever since.
Good Luck
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05-08-2012, 04:29 PM
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That's weird how your two posts are the same but 12 minutes apart
Anyway after 6 hours (2 x 3 hours straight) of snap capping, I'm finally able to consistently see my sights clearly with both eyes open, my target is also clear but doubles (the right image is always the right one, no put intended  )
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