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2ndAmendmentFreedom 05-06-2012 07:38 PM

Shooting with both eyes tip
 
Hey all,
I learned how to shoot by closing my non dominant eye, I'm right eye dominant and right handed. Anyway I've been trying to shoot with both of my eyes open, and as you probably guessed I'm seeing two sights and two targets. Squinting my non dominant eye allows me to hide the double vision to some extent. My question to all the experienced two eyed shooters, are you just ignoring the double vision or do you actually only see one sight and one target? I get the same "symptoms" with my 1911 and 870.
Also depending on the lighting condition, do you find yourself closing your non dominant eye if it gets dark?

glock22gen3 05-06-2012 09:31 PM

Both eyes open no issues.

mountainman13 05-06-2012 09:40 PM

You can try turning your head a bit so that your dominant eye is directly in line with the sights and the bridge of your nose block the view from your non-dominant eye. This should relieve the double vision effect. With practice you will automatically pull the gun up to this alignment with either eye.

Chainfire 05-06-2012 09:46 PM

Both eyes open here. It is best to learn to shoot with 100% of your vision working for you. A bad guy might just be sneaking up on your left.

My biggest issue is that I am right handed and left eye dominant. When shooting a rifle, I still shoot right handed but use my non-dominant eye. When shooting a pistol I lean a tad and use my left eye.

I am going to the eye doc next week, and I intend to have him/her make me a set of glasses that focus my right eye perfectly at 36" and my left at infinity. If they don't make me go insane, they should help my acuity. It sure would be nice to see the sights and the target at the same time. :)

canebrake 05-06-2012 09:53 PM

The real question is, "What style shooting do you practice?"

If it's competition shooting I don't think it matters as long as you're hitting paper.

If it's fight shooting you need the second eye working for peripheral vision providing threat assessment.

You may find this interesting:

DOUG KOENIG: NON-DOMINANT EYE CLOSED?

The bad advice that I hear most often is to shoot with one eye, the non-dominant one, closed. Most military schools and expert instructors teach that both eyes should be open, even in long range shooting. However, I still see a lot of instructors telling shooters to close the non-dominant eye. This is the absolute wrong way to teach shooting. Although many shooters may believe that the monocular versus binocular shooting is simply a difference in approach, the "one eye closed" method is not correct. --Doug Koenig, Professional Shooter, Hornady Ammunition

2ndAmendmentFreedom 05-07-2012 12:33 AM

Well I shoot paper right now but we all know what guns can be used for, and usually it'll be a moving target in a moving environment so I totally get the use of having 2 eyes open. It's just something that I'm not used to yet and I was basically asking what's the goal, force my brain to suppress the double vision or learn how to ignore it. That's why I was asking how you guys see through your sights.

JWagner 05-07-2012 12:48 AM

Chainfire is definitely onto some good stuff. A couple years back, I had a prescription made for glasses that focussed at arms length. The reason was that I was doing a lot of benchwork and computer work that did not suit my bifocals all that well. At the range, my shooting improved a lot using those glasses. They really work.

2ndAmendmentFreedom 05-07-2012 12:53 AM

I don't wear glasses though and I'd rather not have to accessorize myself in order to see & shoot accurately. In the case of ChainFire, I understand the need being dominant eye/hand "inverted".

The_Kid 05-07-2012 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndAmendmentFreedom (Post 792245)
My question to all the experienced two eyed shooters, are you just ignoring the double vision or do you actually only see one sight and one target? I get the same "symptoms" with my 1911 and 870.

I'm left eyed and right handed. I shoot right handed while using the 'double vision;' when shooting shotgun, and a pistol and rifle when shooting quick off hand shots.

Look at this video of me shooting a gallon jug from 2 to 7 yards while walking with a Daisy bb gun, (least expensive.)
I'd probably not get 4 shots off if I was trying to use the sights. This system works well at night.


If I shoot long range or am being as precise as possible with a rifle, I'll shoot left handed using my left eye with the sights.

When I want to be precise with a pistol I shoot right handed but simply align the sights with the dominant eye naturally.


I can shoot either way with a rifle just as well, it is just that when I started shooting, no one told me about the dominant eye; so I learned everything right handed, instead of left eyed.

2ndAmendmentFreedom 05-07-2012 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Kid (Post 792557)
I'm left eyed and right handed. I shoot right handed while using the 'double vision;' when shooting shotgun, and a pistol and rifle when shooting quick off hand shots.

Look at this video of me shooting a gallon jug from 2 to 7 yards while walking with a Daisy bb gun, (least expensive.)
Walking Shooting Day
I'd probably not get 4 shots off if I was trying to use the sights. This system works well at night.


If I shoot long range or am being as precise as possible with a rifle, I'll shoot left handed using my left eye with the sights.

When I want to be precise with a pistol I shoot right handed but simply align the sights with the dominant eye naturally.


I can shoot either way with a rifle just as well, it is just that when I started shooting, no one told me about the dominant eye; so I learned everything right handed, instead of left eyed.

This is a pretty cool exercise. I'm lucky I guess for not being cross-dominant (or whatever the word is), I should be consistent across all guns.


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