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Threetango 10-07-2013 09:23 PM

Shoot Until the Threat is no longer a Threat
 
Here's a good example.
What do you think ?

http://bearingarms.com/no-such-thing-as-a-magic-bullet/

JW357 10-07-2013 09:33 PM

While I agree to keep shooting until he's no longer a threat, I can't tell if he was even hit. Could just be my eyes.

wittmeba 10-07-2013 09:34 PM

Being the newbee that I am I asked the same question on this forum. Axxe55 replied with exactly what is in the post. "...until the threat is no longer a threat".

Anna_Purna 10-07-2013 09:35 PM

Same reason for when I go target shooting in the outdoors, I eject the shotgun shell, or on a bolt action rifle I eject the spent round as fast as I can once I have fired, just to keep myself 'trained' in a situation like this, or with a pissed off animal. Shooting once, and then looking to see if you hit your target could get you killed in a moment just like this :eek:

Threetango 10-07-2013 09:42 PM

Here's more.



Published on Oct 4, 2013

Oregon State Police Thursday released a dramatic video showing the gun battle that unfolded in August on Interstate 84 about 100 miles east of Portland, ending in the death of a Portland motorist.

The freeway confrontation lasted only moments, according to the patrol car video from the Aug. 29 episode. The video, released to The Oregonian after a public records request, starts as Trooper Matt Zistel stops a Cadillac driven by John Van Allen, 34. Allen had three of his children with him that afternoon as he pulled over near Biggs Junction.

The video shows Allen stepping out of his car and assuming a military pose. After Zistel repeatedly tells him to get back in his car, Allen pulls a pistol from his waistband, advancing on Zistel and firing. The video doesn't show Zistel.

After shots are fired, the video shows Allen returning to his car and driving off. He was shot in the chest but the video shows no obvious injury.

Zistel radios, "Shots fired" and then moments later, "I've been hit in the side. I'm okay."

Responding officers found Zistel suffering a gunshot wound. They found Allen's car a half mile down the freeway, parked on the shoulder. Allen was dead, shot once in the chest.

Zistel was treated for his injury at a hospital in The Dalles and released. He has been on administrative leave. Zistel, 26, has been with the agency five years. In a subsequent investigation, Sherman County District Attorney Wade McLeod concluded Zistel was justified in shooting Allen.

Relatives said Allen was returning to his native South Carolina at the time of shooting. They said the aggressive action was out of character. He moved to Portland from Pittsburgh. He served in the U.S. Army Reserve as a construction engineer from 2009 until 2012.Fatal Shootout on Interstate 84 in Oregon

Axxe55 10-07-2013 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wittmeba (Post 1394952)
Being the newbee that I am I asked the same question on this forum. Axxe55 replied with exactly what is in the post. "...until the threat is no longer a threat".

thank you for saying that.

i have heard people say how many does it take to make a BG no longer a threat? there is no known number. it depends on many things. too many to ever give a conclusive answer to. might be one round, or it might be ten rounds or more.

i have also heard, what if the BG is wearing armor? well if center mass shots are not stopping him, shoot him elsewhere. not likely to happen, but it could happen, that a BG is wearing armor.

John_Deer 10-11-2013 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axxe55 (Post 1395057)
thank you for saying that.

i have heard people say how many does it take to make a BG no longer a threat? there is no known number. it depends on many things. too many to ever give a conclusive answer to. might be one round, or it might be ten rounds or more.

i have also heard, what if the BG is wearing armor? well if center mass shots are not stopping him, shoot him elsewhere. not likely to happen, but it could happen, that a BG is wearing armor.

Home invaders are wearing body armor in some cases. They break into gun shops to get weapons, ammo and body armor. Then they go on a crime spree well armed, with protection from handgun fire.

Axxe55 10-11-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Deer (Post 1398765)
Home invaders are wearing body armor in some cases. They break into gun shops to get weapons, ammo and body armor. Then they go on a crime spree well armed, with protection from handgun fire.

please provide some links to eduacate us on this being ongoing.

vincent 10-11-2013 11:12 PM

I've never heard of that either...

Gotta figure, if someone steals a bunch of stuff, they're going to sell it off before they go after more goodies... cough cough DRUG MONEY cough cough But I'm not a criminal so what the hell do I know...

I have a hard time believing, (that since criminals are nothing but gutless COWARDS) they'd have the balls to stand and take live fire. I imagine even with body armor, that sh*t HAS to hurt!!:eek:

But I guess that's why we practice headshots too...

Axxe55 10-11-2013 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincent (Post 1398775)
I've never heard of that either...

Gotta figure, if someone steals a bunch of stuff, they're going to sell it off before they go after more goodies... cough cough DRUG MONEY cough cough But I'm not a criminal so what the hell do I know...

I have a hard time believing, (that since criminals are nothing but gutless COWARDS) they'd have the balls to stand and take live fire. I imagine even with body armor, that sh*t HAS to hurt!!:eek:

But I guess that's why we practice headshots too...

even when wearing body armor, people can still end up with internal injuries from being shot. body armor only increases your odds of survival if shot. it doesn't make a person bulletproof.


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