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Old 09-07-2013, 01:31 AM   #21
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" Glocks are unforgiving of human error " according to an AGI video .

That said, it isn't hard to keep from pointing the gun at your hand, a surprisingly common error people make when disassembling the gun . I can think of at least two other such cases and hereby propose that the term " Glock Leg " be joined by " Glock Hand " .
Rule #1 applies here : Dry snap at a suitable barrier during disassembly because ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED Rule #2 also applies .
NO NO NO!!!! ALL guns are not ALWAYS loaded!!! That is the stupidest thing anyone can say.
I AM NOT A GRADE SCHOOL KID SO DON'T TALK TO ME LIKE I AM!

You should TREAT all guns as if they are loaded until you have personalty checked it and then load or unload it as your need dictate.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:48 AM   #22
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Booger hook, I like that. But the 'booger' would kind of make it a little slippery would it not????
No, it's more like " Stickem" Snots slippery.

Jim, hope your grandson heals well. Our best to him.

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Booger hook, I like that. But the 'booger' would kind of make it a little slippery would it not????
No, snot is slippery. Boogers are dried snot......
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Wow. Lot of nose picker experts here.

Hoping for a speedy recovery and minimal permanent damage Jim.
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Well I just got word my grandson just shot himself in his left hand while 'manipulating' his new Glock 23 Gen4!
The bullet passed through the lower part of the hand missing the metacarpal and it would appear the only permanent disability may be some nerve damage affecting his left little finger.
I live 900+ miles from him so I have no details about this.
When he got this gun I warned him to be VERY careful as Glocks are single actions without any active safeties. I hope he learns from his mistake.!!!
Does he live in Sumas?
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Hope your grandson recovers fast and fully. Hopefully he will be more careful next time he is manipulating any firearm. Sucks that it happened, but maybe some good will come out of this. I'm sure that next time he will remember rule #1. Lessons learned the hard way seem to stay with us far longer than what we learn from the mistakes of others.
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Sorry to hear about that.

But... 900 miles isn't too far to go beat some sense into him.

Or you can just use it as a great story to bring up EVERY Thanksgiving and Christmas for the next 50 years.
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Sorry for your grandson. I wish him a speedy recovery.
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NO NO NO!!!! ALL guns are not ALWAYS loaded!!! That is the stupidest thing anyone can say.
I AM NOT A GRADE SCHOOL KID SO DON'T TALK TO ME LIKE I AM!

You should TREAT all guns as if they are loaded until you have personalty checked it and then load or unload it as your need dictate.
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Cooper said : " RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
There are no exceptions. Do not pretend that this is true. Some people and organizations take this rule and weaken it;e.g. "Treat all guns as if they were loaded." Unfortunately, the "as if" compromises the directness of the statement by implying that they are unloaded, but we will treat them as though they are loaded. No good! Safety rules must be worded forcefully so that they are never treated lightly or reduced to partial compliance.

All guns are always loaded - period!"

I disagree with you because I think trouble starts when you distinguish between loaded and unloaded guns . If I take your advice to check and then consider it unloaded, is it okay to dry snap at the ceiling ? Is it okay to peek down the barrel for obstructions ? Is it okay to point it at others during SWAT training ?
I checked it. It is unloaded. What could possibly go wrong ?
BTW- I hope you'll update us and fill in the details on your Grandson's mishap . Hope he has a full recovery .
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Cooper said : " RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
There are no exceptions. Do not pretend that this is true. Some people and organizations take this rule and weaken it;e.g. "Treat all guns as if they were loaded." Unfortunately, the "as if" compromises the directness of the statement by implying that they are unloaded, but we will treat them as though they are loaded. No good! Safety rules must be worded forcefully so that they are never treated lightly or reduced to partial compliance.

All guns are always loaded - period!"

I disagree with you because I think trouble starts when you distinguish between loaded and unloaded guns . If I take your advice to check and then consider it unloaded, is it okay to dry snap at the ceiling ? Is it okay to peek down the barrel for obstructions ? Is it okay to point it at others during SWAT training ?
I checked it. It is unloaded. What could possibly go wrong ?
BTW- I hope you'll update us and fill in the details on your Grandson's mishap . Hope he has a full recovery .
Very good points. There is a reason gun ranges require all guns to be on the table with magazines removed, actions open and muzzles pointing downrange during a cease fire. "I checked it. It is unloaded" won't cut it.
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