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Old 12-02-2012, 12:48 AM   #41
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Now that right there is the God's Honest Truth. SFOD-Delta (which isn't even supposed to exist) has its former members writing books ("Dalton Fury," Pete Blaber, etc), and we've already had a book out by a member of the SEAL Team Six mission to kill UBL. And not only that, his real name has been leaked "accidentally." Sure, after putting up with the years of bullsh*t & agony you have to go through to attain Special Operator status it's probably understandable that you'd like a little recognition and appreciation once in a while...but self-promotion and advertising is the antithesis of what you are supposed to be about. We've even had former CIA SAD people writing books and appearing on TV.

It truly amazes me the amount of open-source intel and OPSEC information available on the internet or in published form that our enemies can peruse at their leisure.
That's nothing new. I remember the book from the Delta commanding officer that came out right after the Iran desert fiasco back in 1979.
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Richard Marcinko.
And one of his guys wrote a book almost identical to his first.
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i served 7 years with the seals. 90% of them are self centered egotists. many i knew got all this training, just to show up tothe cmd to sit around in the hootch, running, pt'ing and occasionally, do a training op or do maint. on equipment. but theyd mostly blow that off on the techs and head out to hot tuna for party time. they had free range passes to burn tons of ammo and did, and then went into town to cause trouble at local bars picking up chicks as a passtime. talk about bruised egos, when one would come back that got beat up by the locals!
granted, they get the hard missions. but thats what they are paid the big bucks for. we all signed papers saying we'd keep our traps shut. the minute someone waves money intheir faces, they bit and forgot all that.
ive always contested the logic when i had some say what is being shown is declassified. because even old tactics and procedures are still dangerous and valuable in the wrong hands.
its not good enough they make 4 times that of a typical sailor, get free ammo, cool equipment, and status, no they need to line their pockets too?
yeah its a rant. and its always been a sore spot.
navy isnt hollywood. if the navy needs hollywood to keep the seals in business, we are a sick nation.
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That's nothing new. I remember the book from the Delta commanding officer that came our right after the Iran desert fiasco back in 1979.



Charlie Beckwith wrote one and there were others. I don't have a problem with publications after-the-fact of declassified material. They are an important resource. What turns me sour is the self-promotion aspect. Look at Kill Bin Laden a misnamed book about how we didn't kill him at Tora Bora. Marchinko is another shameless one. This latest book about the UBL mission came out just months later. And I have great respect and admiration for our SF/SOF/SOCOM people and have proudly fought beside some of them (Rangers) in former days. A lot of the justifiable criticism being leveled at these get-rich-quick former operators is coming from within their own SpecOps community.
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As far as declassification goes...

I've done completely mundane, menial tasks (at least they seemed so to me), that won't be declassified for 50 years.

And I've done some exciting things that were never classified to begin with. Nay, some were on CNN live.
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Bobski probably knows what an ET 1441 is, that's what I was for 6 years in the Navy , pretty mundane job.
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I was a real operator. 36Mike. Telecommunications Specialist. I installed and operated telephone and switchboard equipment! LOL.
Funny. One of my friends is the 'real deal'. I was asking him about weapons and the only thing he said was, 'my biggest weapon is my radio.'
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I would have been dead long ago had it not been for a PRC-25, CAS, on-call 105 and Dustoff.
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like you CAN'T be skilled and experienced UNLESS you got/did it in the MILITARY, right? :-) I got news for you, dudes. A FEW of us have learned it on our own, and in fact, some of us TAUGHT the military what they know about it, and some of us have had a lot more pistol experience than the military ever gets, cause they get to use longarms. We normally do not.
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