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AR10 08-29-2013 08:13 PM

NRA Will No Longer Train Or Renew Instructors Not Born On American Soil
 
https://www.nrainstructors.org/InstructorAdmin/renewLogin.aspx


NRA cannot provide any assistance in training foreign persons due to conflicting information from the U.S. Government regarding regulations pertinent to foreign persons and arms training. NRA cannot process any requests for assistance in training foreign persons. In view of above, we regret to inform you that NRA will not renew NRA firearm instructor certification for any foreign national.

The temp under the simmering frogs, just went up one degree.

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c3shooter 08-29-2013 09:26 PM

"Foreign National" and "Not born on American Soil" are not identical terms. Our oldest son, a retired US Marine, was not born in the USA.

mountainman13 08-29-2013 09:53 PM

Exactly what is the definition of foreign national?
Do they mean anyone that isn't a citizen?

7.62 Man 08-29-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainman13 (Post 1351016)
Exactly what is the definition of foreign national?
Do they mean anyone that isn't a citizen?

Check out this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_national

mountainman13 08-29-2013 10:25 PM

So if I am understanding this correctly they will no longer train anyone that is not an American citizen. Unless they do training outside the US, I fail to see the problem.

AR10 08-29-2013 11:39 PM

My certification is paid up through mid 2015. If this policy lasts that long, when I come up for reup, how does the NRA determine I fall into their new policy, unless they start collecting birth records, or they are in bed with the gov?

mountainman13 08-29-2013 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR10 (Post 1351120)
My certification is paid up through mid 2015. If this policy lasts that long, when I come up for reup, how does the NRA determine I fall into their new policy, unless they start collecting birth records, or they are in bed with the gov?

I was having the same Thought myself.

JonM 08-30-2013 01:12 AM

basically they dont want to train folks coming here from the muslim brotherhood (alqueda obama's chosen people) and them taking that training overseas to use in their campaign of genocide and gassing schoolchildren...

thats my take on it at least

Vikingdad 08-30-2013 01:35 AM

The title and the statement do not jive. I have no problem with training and certifying legal residents and naturalized who may or may not have been born on American soil (as C3 points out, there are American-born citizens who were born on foreign soil). I do have a problem with training possible enemies of the American people. But quite honestly I do not think that al Quaida is sending a bunch of militants here to get NRA instructors certification. Don't they do all of that training in the sand countries?

It looks like the NRA will not certify or renew for foreigners. It says nothing about naturalized citizens.

mountainman13 08-30-2013 01:43 AM

The way I'm looking at it (at this point) is feds have a boot on the nras throat. Who at the NRA is using what for verification and who in the feds is stockpiling this information?


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