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Old 08-09-2013, 09:22 PM   #61
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I'm simply trying to show you there are different perspectives on this.
When I mentioned placing the thumb behind the slide, I meant the thumb is directly in the path of the slide coming back. Your wife is not doing what my customers do when they come out of my range bleeding. When my customers put their thumbs behind the slide (this means directly in the path of the slide when it slides back) they do not go on my range.

I believe I have said enough on the matter and I do not wish to repeat myself.
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When I mentioned placing the thumb behind the slide, I meant the thumb is directly in the path of the slide coming back. Your wife is not doing what my customers do when they come out of my range bleeding. When my customers put their thumbs behind the slide (this means directly in the path of the slide when it slides back) they do not go on my range.

I believe I have said enough on the matter and I do not wish to repeat myself.
Fair enough. I guess I misunderstood.
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This is starting to look like one big ego trip to me.

Apparently, you allow unescorted, unwatched

folks who are "able" in your opinion, to shoot,

while arbitrarily denying others.

I asked twice, it's apparent you have no RSOs

or you would have to responded.

So if you want to troll shooters, and get

peoples goats, in order to make yourself

feel better about some crappy aspect of

your life, I don't see why you need to wipe

your butt with US, in order to salve your conscience.


At best, this control freak crap is going to destroy your

customer base, and business. At worst, it's going to destroy

you. Don't deny you enjoy playing god with shooting

privileges. On at least a subconscious level,

that's the reason you set it up this way.

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This is starting to look like one big ego trip to me.
Are you addressing me? I am confused. On page 6 it looked like you were replying to nitestalker. In any case it appears that you are the one who are trying to stir things up. If you had read the thread and my OP, you would see that I started out with no RSOs and that only a few weeks have passed since that suggestion was first made to me. If you had read the thread you would also see that I am considering this option and have not yet implemented it.

I will not be replying to your posts in the future.

Once again I'd like to thank the numerous people who have responded to my OP and subsequent posts; it has been very helpful to me and I have a much clearer idea of what I need to be doing in the future to mitigate this ongoing problem.
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Most range owners have managed to take the fun out of shooting a pistol. I qualified with a 1911 in the Marine Corps. Qualifying in the Marine Corps was a hell of alot more fun than going to a gun range to practice. I do go to ranges to shoot in competitions. But I take all of my practice at home.

What is funny until my health went downhill I shot skeet and sporting clays for over 30 years. I never had a bad experience at a shotgun facility. But to be frank, I don't like pistol shooters or pistol ranges. They have a rule that takes the fun out the entire experience. If pistol ranges were the only game in town I would sell all my guns other than what I need for SD and hunting.

It's not you it's the entire pistol range game. Pistol ranges were built by *******s for *******s you should fit right in.

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I will not be replying to your posts in the future.
YOU never responded to my question about RSOs,

I ASKED TWICE.

So if you don't respond to my posts, not only is that

NO CHANGE, it also speaks VOLUMES to the "problem"

at your range, which, simply put, is your attitude,

and how poorly you handle people. And, YES, YOU

are the OP, I AM ADDRESSING YOU.

So if all you are seeking is commiseration, I'm sure you

have been amply provided by others.


You will convince everyone else you are sincere about

running a proper range, when you contact the NRA,

and hire some experienced NRA RSOs.

And please don't respond, because if there's one thing of

which I'm certain, it's that you will do what you want, no

matter what, and ultimately justify it in your own mind.
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Just for the record, I asked as well as others where your range is and got no reply (unless I missed it).

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I appreciate that. You have no idea. I work 6 days a week. I stress about the business a lot. I have various problems and challenges and some of them I don't know how to address or fix. I feel overwhelmed often by the business. Definitely stretched too thin. And I don't trust anyone to help me except for the occasional volunteer RSO or RSO who is trading for range time. I can't take chances with employees because I've been burned before by that. And I won't let anyone touch my books.
The best advice I can give you is this. Shut down your range, and concentrate on your shop instead. After your shop is going well, reconsider whether to re-open the range at a later time. You may be more content this way.
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It isn't always what you do ; sometimes it's how you do it . A friendly, welcoming attitude will get better results than an apprehensive , reluctant one .
If you want safety, I say hold an orientation party once a week . Serve refreshments, show videos, hand out a rules and safety tips booklet, let everyone take a written test and those who pass get a range safety course certificate. Have a live fire familiarization at the end . Until one attends, require that he be accompanied on the range by someone who has attended .

Allow trainers to hold classes at the range and invite anyone who hasn't attended orientation to use the range as part of such a training class .

Finally, have volunteer RSOs on the range as often as possible .

The most important rule is " Keep it pointed downrange " .

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I gotta agree with therewolf. Who are you to judge that someones grip on a pistol is wrong. I'm sure most would agree that with pistols esp. you grip however it is comfortable for you. Op I can tell you right now that had I been one of those who was turned down because of my grip I would have done everything in my power to make sure you got no business and had to shut down. People like you cause many people who are new to guns to completely give up on shooting sports all together and possibly become these anti's we have to put up with. Do not worry about how someone grips their pistol because it is not your concern esp. since you don't feel like trying to teach which from what I can tell is probably a good thing. Either shutdown the range or hire RSO's and make new people watch a SHORT safety video. Otherwise you are going to cost yourself your entire business because eventually people will just start going and buying from the other LGS's in town even if the prices are higher just because of your attitude.

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