Originally Posted by M14sRock
We do not know the extent of this CCW class, or the experience level of the shooters attending. You are assuming that the students were inexperienced, and are making judgments based on that assumption. I think it is irresponsible to criticize the methodology of the class without knowing the details.
At the end of the day, you may be right. But, based upon the information in that news story, there is not enough information to make accusations about the quality and level of instruction.
First, let me say that I'm not trying to be a jerk and argue my point as absolute. I'm not, I do like a healthy debate though!
And I realize I'm the "new guy" here and my last intention is to anger folks here or irk folks. Just want to make that known. I don't know the dynamics here so I don't want to overstep my bounds here.I'm just giving my opinion, and according to my wife that's just something I can keep to myself
As for the conversation here, your right. We don't don't the level of training here that the folks on the range that day had.
What we do know is what is required for the class. It must teach safe handling, cleaning and storage of a firearm and show proficiency by firing 50 rounds and shooting 20 rounds of record fire at a target.
If that is all that is required, then why add more? Sure, you can go above an beyond, but I would argue that you would need to bill the course as such and let it be known that it may not be the course for someone who isn't proficient at the basics.
And if that is what he did, then fine. The shooter should have known his limitations and practiced more maybe. The instructor should have mitigated the risk better, We could go on and on. Yes it's monday morning QBing, but it's also an opportunity to learn from an After Action Review on the training. Learn from mistakes.
Now, in the Instructors defense, the Sheriff OKed the training as required by law. This is something he should have thought about longer. Probably not a good idea. Seasoned shooters have a hard time drawing and firing from their weak side, and you want possible new comers to do it? Bad idea.
Anyway, That's my opinion on the matter. I would like to know how manipulating a safety (with either hand) gets a gun turned almost 180 degrees so you shoot yourself in the chest. Then again, older gent, could have had arthritis or something...which goes back to my argument about level of training and skill.