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downsouth 10-16-2012 10:36 AM

We all know that firearms can be dangerous. When you add an animal to the equation the unknown factor of an animals behavior can have unexpected results and deserves even more caution.

What was going to be a family feast has turned into a family tragedy.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/10/13/man-in-critical-condition-after-being-shot-trying-to-slaughter-pig/

WebleyFosbery38 10-16-2012 10:57 AM

Sad really. I used to hunt Grouse and Pheasant years ago and that was a bit of a challenge with a dog and a buddy. The high Corn, still pretty congested foliage and fact that we moved a fair distance apart made it nearly dangerous. The dog always had a bell so we knew its location, the rest of us had to use our voices, ears and experience to make sure we didnt shoot each other.

My old hunting dog died, The Pheasants are gone and all we have left are flying bowling balls (Turkey's). No longer interested in bird hunting...

KG7IL 10-16-2012 01:46 PM

Can we learn from this that we should not use semi-automatics? (pure conjecture) I wish there was more information as to be useful.

It is a shame for the family, friends and all gunowners when an accident occurs.

winds-of-change 10-16-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KG7IL (Post 978697)
Can we learn from this that we should not use semi-automatics? (pure conjecture) I wish there was more information as to be useful.

It is a shame for the family, friends and all gunowners when an accident occurs.

I'm using this as a learning experience. Tell me why you said this and what kind of rifle should have been used?

mountainman13 10-16-2012 02:00 PM

It has nothing to do with semi-autos. It has to do with negligence pure and simple. You don't stand downrange from a shooter. You keep your booger picker off the trigger until ready to fire. It is a sad accident but it is still a negligent discharge.

winds-of-change 10-16-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainman13 (Post 978718)
It has nothing to do with semi-autos. It has to do with negligence pure and simple. You don't stand downrange from a shooter. You keep your booger picker off the trigger until ready to fire. It is a sad accident but it is still a negligent discharge.

The article implied the pig bucked, knocking the rifle backwards and shot the brother standing behind the shooter. At least that's what I understood it to say.

downsouth 10-16-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by winds-of-change

The article implied the pig bucked, knocking the rifle backwards and shot the brother standing behind the shooter. At least that's what I understood it to say.

That's the way I read it also Winds. That's why I wrote about even more caution when a varible like animals are in the mix.

jjfuller1 10-16-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by downsouth (Post 978775)
That's the way I read it also Winds. That's why I wrote about even more caution when a varible like animals are in the mix.

hmm. i read it as a bump fire incident. he shot the pig, the pig bucked pushing the rifle back and the shooters finger was still on the trigger and the bump triggered a second shot. now he may not of been directly in front of the rifle. but the rifle may have bounced some to the left or right. but i dont see how it would spin and hit someone beside, or behind the shooter. rifles generally dont bounce like that. if it was a bolt action it would of been preventable, if more caution was used it could of been preventable.... if it was me i would of used a higher powered rifle from a little more distance away.

Dillinger 10-16-2012 04:00 PM

:confused:

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two brothers at the home woke up early Saturday morning to slaughter one of their pigs, say police. The older brother had the .22 caliber rifle, while his younger brother, a man in his late 20s, stood by. When the older brother put the gun to the pig and fired, police say the pig bucked back.
The pig bucked, and the rifle went backwards, and it went off again a second time
Maybe I am just not well versed in the correct way to put the Coup De Grace on said swine. :confused:

How does one put a .22 caliber rifle (horrible choice by the way, one would think perhaps a bit more gun would have helped) to the back of the head of a pig, fire, the pig bucks, the rifle ends up 180 degrees in the opposite direction and then fires again???

I realize this a tragedy and all, but does this make sense to everyone else but me and I am alone in the back of the short bus here??

JonM 10-16-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dillinger (Post 978862)
:confused:



Maybe I am just not well versed in the correct way to put the Coup De Grace on said swine. :confused:

How does one put a .22 caliber rifle (horrible choice by the way, one would think perhaps a bit more gun would have helped) to the back of the head of a pig, fire, the pig bucks, the rifle ends up 180 degrees in the opposite direction and then fires again???

I realize this a tragedy and all, but does this make sense to everyone else but me and I am alone in the back of the short bus here??

when you shoot an animal in the head the involuntary reaction is very violent. its totally possible. being a little smarter would have saved his brother. when you put down an animal you dont stand anywhere near it much less close enough to touch it with a gun. the reaction form a headshot from a an animal the size of a pig or larger is VERY violent and uncontrollable. even if it is a single shot firearm the dead animal can wreak a ton of damage if your next to it as it kicks jerks and bucks around.

sometimes they just drop sometimes they jump like crazy. its where the term chicken with its head cutoff comes from. upscale that to a couple hundred pound animal and you can see how it would be pretty damn stupid to stand anywhere near one putting it down.

anyway the strange part is this:

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It’s also unclear just what happened to the pig, and if the slaughter was successful.
heh, sorry i just cant help finding humor in even the worst of it


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