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thehuntedhunter 06-04-2007 05:34 PM

Making own range
I am getting into shooting alot now and am learning about alot of different things. Can anyone tell me what the walls are made of in a "kill house" and how much it could cost to build a 1 story "kill house"?

Can anyone tell me what cost would be for a simple outdoor range with a 100yard X 50Yard concrete slab and a not to expensive but effective backstop?
What would make a good backstop for an outdoor range?

ScottG 06-05-2007 12:22 PM

I've thought about this before, but have no land except a house lot.

First, you'll need plenty of open area. Make sure shooting is allowed before you put out the resources and time. No sense in getting shut down by the authorities after completing the build out.

I don't see any need for a complete slab to run the length of your range. That seems to be what you asked. I've never seen any outdoor range have that type of construction. You don't even need a slab for your shooting area. You might want a covered place to shoot from, but even then you won't need a slab, just level the ground.

Some people have gone to the trouble of surrounding their range with a berm to minimize strays. If you have plenty of dirt, you might want to create a U shaped berm at the backstop and a for a few feet from the targets uprange instead of completely surrounding it.

Cheapest, easiest backstop is a wall of dirt. If you have access to used tires, stack them up then fill and cover. You could also use old railroad ties. There are many types of backstops to make.

Your target stands can be something portable you've bought or you can make your own permanent ones. The cost will be determined by how sophisticated you want them to be. There are plenty of designs available on the net. Just search for target stands.

You won't know the cost to build your own range until you've decided how far you want to go with it. Is is something permanent to the location, or are you looking to build temporary? You'll just have to price your components and go from there.

I don't know anything about making a "kill house," but I've read people's accounts of shooting in them, and some have been just hanging sheets to create "rooms." If you want to create a professional one for live fire, it would cost the same as building a house I'd think.

notdku 06-05-2007 09:30 PM

I think you could get by pretty cheap making a kill house with products if you have a local habitat restore IE old building materials people donate.

I've gotten complete doors with frames for $5. They have plywood and 2x4s usually. Usually have bricks as well.

RONSERESURPLUS 06-07-2007 06:24 PM

Making own Range!
Hello all


I hate to be the Wet Blanket to the wonderful Idea you have! First of all, remember all the Local, State and Federal ordinances you will have to comply with, all the Wonderfull folks at DEP, as well as the EPA, Get an Idea of what you want to do and before you put one thin dime into it, Contact those agencies I've mentioned! I've seen folks try and do this and waste thousands of Dollars, just to be told, YOU CAN'T DO THAT! Best to be patient, explain who, who and where you wanna do it, then let them see if they would approve, Yes, it's America where the Feds have a Lot of Say in what you can or can't do! I hate that it is this way, but it is! No, it's not Just California or New jersey, the feds Like domain over dam near everything! I don't say this to be a pest, I just don't want your dreams dashed by the feds and the Paper police?

Declaration Day 06-08-2007 12:05 AM

I have a shooting range on my 16-acre piece of woods in northern Michigan. I have a steep, natural hill for a backstop. The target stand is a cheap 2X4 framework, 8' high and 24' wide. Total cost for my range was about $30 and some hard labor, as I had to cut down several trees to make room for it.

It's not as pretty as the local DNR operated range, but it was about $1,000,000 cheaper.

robocop10mm 07-11-2007 07:44 PM

If you wanted a "Kill House" you could go one of two routes. Light steel walls and frangible ammo (1/16 inch sheet steel will safely stop Longbow frangibles). Or solid walls and conventional ammo. You could use railroad ties, 2x thick with sand between or tires stacked, two to three thick.

I had an outdoor range with tires for a backstop. Final evolution was split tires (friend had tire store and tire splitter that split radially through the tread) with utility posts set at back of each bead to keep stable. The front of the posts had 4" angle iron to protect the wood. Would easily contain 7.62 X 51 ball ammo.

NWBuckeye 08-30-2007 06:11 PM

This is Mine During Reconstruction Work.

Well Over "2000" truck loads of clay and dirt. 250 yds. Long x 33 yds. wide.
Still have more Work to do before it's Finished. Rental fees Kill me though.:(

Pounce 08-31-2007 07:55 PM

Years ago I had one made of railroad ties (4 deep,10 high)and a 1/2 in. sheet of steel at a downward angle.

Where I live now I have one dug out of the side of a hill in the woods by a creek. I have a JD450, so that kinda helps a wee bit.:)

notdku 09-02-2007 09:22 AM

Buckeye tell us more. Is that your land and you charge rental fees to shot there? How much do you have invested in the land and improvements?

notdku 12-28-2007 09:51 PM

I've been debating buying 20 acres and building a range but there are houses on both sides of the 20 acres. The land is unrestricted but still. Declaration Day do you have neighbors, do they complain?

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