Originally Posted by Doc3402
I would love to see a source on that stat. What you're saying is that the average untrained citizen has a higher success rate than the police, and I would love to be able to quote that source to some friends of mine.
the difference is that the civilian isnt trying to arrest the goblin and they are required to use the least force required. police arent just being randomly attacked as a rule. when police are off duty just being a citizen they have the same success against goblins as the average joe. just recently in san antonio an off duty officer stopped a theater shooter.
you just dont see any stories about citizens pulling a gun then the bad guy grabbing it and shooting the citizen. it doesnt happen. but there are all sorts of stories about police getting shot with their own guns.
why that happens is civilians arent trying to arrest or apprehend people and arent getting into wrestling matches with goblins at traffic stops.
what typically happens is a goblin comes into a home or business tries to commit a crime civilian pulls a gun and starts shooting at the goblin who then drops right there or flees.
police pull over a car driver or passenger get out and attack the cop or the officer tries to detain a person and while trying to cuff em the wrestling starts and thats the difference. when officers are confronted the same way by a goblin that civilians are they experience nearly 100% success.
when was the last time you heard of the police getting wiped out in a straight up gun fight?? doesnt happen.
the difference is that police cant just shoot a suspect civilians can and do because their lives are at immediate risk. by the time an interaction that police are having with a suspect turns into self defense with deadly force its often during a hand to hand wrestling match.
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