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 11-11-2010, 10:48 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 191 |  How safe is this really?
I just saw a video on google where the guy is teaching how to handle yourself in a struggle for a gun (cqc). He recommends grabbing the hand gun in a manner so that it will not cycle. Seems like to practice something like this, you would need to do it with live ammo and really fire (BTW i do not plan on practicing it anyway). Just seems VERY dangerous to be showing as a training suggestion. What you you think?
here is the video. (it is about a minute long)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5116628615777591572#docid=39473776 11560206823
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| 11-11-2010, 11:47 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Clifton, Colorado Posts: 1,475 Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts
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Looks like a good way to put a bullet through your forearm. __________________
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| 11-11-2010, 11:55 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 191 |
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Originally Posted by Rick1967
Looks like a good way to put a bullet through your forearm.
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I am really trying to start studying more technique, and get more training, but this one was a little strange to me. What about just tearing up your hand by doing it? I don't remember what he was testing, but what would a .45 do to your hand, even if you did not shoot yourself? This seems like a good way to AT BEST tear your hand up pretty good. __________________
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| 11-12-2010, 12:18 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere in, Vermont Posts: 122 |
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Looks like a good way to put a bullet through your forearm.
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My thoughts exactly.
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| 11-12-2010, 12:28 AM | #5 | Raised On Paint Chips Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: A little town in, IOWA Posts: 1,561 |
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| 11-12-2010, 02:50 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 443 | Grabbing gun
In all the police academies I have attended and successfully graduated from I have never seen this taught.(3 academies)
I have seen references to stopping the cylinder on a revolver from turning if one shot has been fired and the gun not recocked. The US Army told us that if you pushed back on the slide the gun(Colt Mdl. 1911) would not fire because the disconnect would be activated. No one volunteered to demonstrate.
In police academies we are trained to knock the gun from a offenders hand if we are unarmed or do not have time to draw our own weapon. You always hit the back of their hand because that allows the gun to fly out of the open side of the hand.
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| 11-12-2010, 01:23 PM | #7 | When it's Necessary.... Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tornado "Just Blow Me" Alley, Oklahoma U.S.A. Posts: 8,424 |
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Seems like to practice something like this, you would need to do it with live ammo and really fire (BTW i do not plan on practicing it anyway). Just seems VERY dangerous to be showing as a training suggestion. What you you think?
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I think the video is very amateurish and dangerous. Disarming someone with a loaded gun pointed at you using only your hands requires serious training, confidence, and multi-scenario practice and follow through.
Disarming someone with a gun by using an extension weapon, such as a baton, stick, bat or sword, also requires serious training and practice.
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Warning: Do not attempt this gun disarming defense technique without hours and hours, if not years, of proper instruction and training.
YouTube - Krav Maga Self Defense Techniques : Front Gun Attack : Krav Maga__________________
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| 11-12-2010, 05:25 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 191 |
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Krav Maga
Warning: Do not attempt this gun disarming defense technique without hours and hours, if not years, of proper instruction and training.
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Interesting video, and well done as he tells you give up your stuff, only do it when you are going to loose your life. The one i posted seems to really be setting up someone for a BAD accident, or a good idea for a dare for kids. Acts like it is no big deal.
Are you a Krav Maga Guy? My son and i are doing Muay Thai together, but my brother has really gotten into Krav Maga, and he loves it and says it is the greatest. I know for my son (7) it is a bit intense - dont want any crippled first grade bullies in his class, but i am very interested in it, but only watched videos online. __________________
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| 11-12-2010, 05:42 PM | #9 | Ground Zero Ocean Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florence, Oregon Posts: 8,463 |
These types of incidents are life and death situations. You are either going to win or the BG is going to win. I am not going to just stand there and wait for the perp to shoot me.
I watched an interesting clip on Personal Defense last night where Massad Ayoob demonstrated trapping the opponents weapon as they are trying to draw from a holster. It too would take practice, but much quicker than trying to out draw them with your own weapon. __________________ Molon Labe!
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| 11-12-2010, 06:17 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 191 |
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I watched an interesting clip on Personal Defense last night where Massad Ayoob demonstrated trapping the opponents weapon as they are trying to draw from a holster. It too would take practice, but much quicker than trying to out draw them with your own weapon.
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Do you remember the link? Post it if you have it handy. I would like to take a look. __________________
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