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Old 03-21-2014, 07:50 AM   #1
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Well not entirely, I hope this is the right section. I have a few questions on what one would do in a few situations.

Situation 1- You have a few months (6-8) experience in krav mag or kali, but little or no experience in knife fighting.

You are in some "empty" house and your doing cqb and all you have is a fixed blade knife Ka-Bar style. You walk in a room and someone comes at you with a knife, Do you A pull your knife and fight or B try to use the knife disarming skills you learned in your martial arts training?

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You were just in battle and your weapon is dry and you seek cover in a seemingly empty building, a enemy combatant or soldier comes at you but he's unarmed and all you have is a empty gun and your knife. Do you pull your knife and fight or keep it in its sheath because the guy could possibly take it from you or try beating him with your rifle??

Odd questions but it kind of got me thinking, is it better to use your fists or a knife you dont know how to fight with? Is it better to leave a knife out of a fight because you could lose it, or pull it to give you an "advantage"?


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well a couple of things to think about. outside of a few very specially trained individuals, most of what you see or hear about knifefighting is mostly crap.

if you are to the point that you are down to nothing more than a knife to defend yourself, accept the fact that even if you win the fight, you are probably more than likely going to still get cut or injured in that fight.

quite possibly, if instead of using the knife, the prudent and more logical solution may be to retreat if possible. simply put, even if your opponent dies first and you bleed out hours later, did you really win the fight?

personally i would never resort to a knife or trying to disarm someone with a knife unless i had simply no other options left to take. IMO, it's simply a foolish endeavor that has the potential for disaster if trying to survive.

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Situation 1- ...You are in some "empty" house and your doing cqb and all you have is a fixed blade knife Ka-Bar style...
Real world answer: I would not be doing cqb with only a knife. Especially one still in the sheath. Plus that puts me as the aggressor as I do not have the authority to be doing CQB except in my home. And in my home, I have a few firearms loaded so I don't need the knife.

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scenario 2-...Do you pull your knife and fight or keep it in its sheath because the guy could possibly take it from you or try beating him with your rifle??
Real world answer: The rifle pointed at you, whether empty or loaded looks loaded when pointed at your head.
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What is cqb?

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Close Quarter Battle.
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Ok what my knife fighting instructor always said that "the most dangerous person to knife fight with is an inexperienced one as they are wildly unpredictable" In all actuality if your fighting with knives you are going to get cut almost 99% of the time. I don't know Krav Maga, but I do know mechanically applied control holds and Army combatives and I would still only tangle with a guy with a knife as an absolute last resort. If I have an empty rifle and he has a knife I am going to beat his brains in thats for sure I just have to be careful about it and tire him out while keeping him at bay with my longer reach.

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Ok what my knife fighting instructor always said that "the most dangerous person to knife fight with is an inexperienced one as they are wildly unpredictable" In all actuality if your fighting with knives you are going to get cut almost 99% of the time. I don't know Krav Maga, but I do know mechanically applied control holds and Army combatives and I would still only tangle with a guy with a knife as an absolute last resort. If I have an empty rifle and he has a knife I am going to beat his brains in thats for sure I just have to be careful about it and tire him out while keeping him at bay with my longer reach.
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Most people are not extremely informed when it comes to blade combat.

That is one of the reasons you hear of murders where victim is "stabbed over 37 times" or something similar. The common answer is "it was a crime of passion or evil". Not always the case. When the killers technique was learned from watching Friday the 13th, it may take 37 little stab holes for the person to bleed enough to lose consciousness.

The most important thing in a fight is position. It is hard to gain favorable position while flailing a knife with one hand. I would recommend gaining control of opponent then going for your knife. Target main arteries in, neck, inner thigh, inner arms. It does not take a large butcher knife with 12" blade to be effective. A small tactical folder is enough.

One deep cut is better than 10 superficial slices. Remember that slicing muscles and tendons in a forearm will make it impossible to grip with that hand. Good for you, bad for them.




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If I ever find myself in a situation where all I have is a knife for protection things have gone very wrong indeed. I make it a point to carry enough cartridges to go "pew pew pew pew pew" a very long time.

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I would try to avoid revealing my blade, in any event.

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