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Old 01-21-2014, 04:28 AM   #11
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Never had an AD but for the for grace of God go I!!!!!!!!

I had a couple of near AD's I caught at the last second!!!

Mental lapses that could have cost my dearly, but didn't........

My close calls were all distraction issues too!

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Old 01-21-2014, 07:56 AM   #12
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Thanks for sharing that with us Balota, I'm glad no one was hurt. It took a lot of guts to put this out on FTF so others can learn for your experience.
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:36 AM   #13
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AD vs ND has been a long running debate between my brother and I. My opinion is that an AD is a mechanical failure and an ND is all other unintentional discharges. His opinion doesn't matter.

The debate with my brother started when he got a Colt Commander from his neighbor. He was busy showing me how safe the 1911 was as we were going through the various safeties. He successfully showed me the magazine safety, the manual safety, and was showing me the grip safety when a loud bang and a scream were heard. He had put a new hole in his bedroom floor. His only saving grace was that the firearm was pointed at the floor. His wife was on the other side of that wall working at her sewing machine. Had the muzzle not been pointed at the floor she would have been in the direct line of fire.

So now you know why my brother's opinion doesn't matter. He doesn't have the courage that Balota showed by admitting his mistake. My brother refuses to admit that he screwed up. He forgot all about the round in the chamber.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:28 AM   #14
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Glad to hear everybody is OK. Thanks for sharing. NO ONE is immune.

I think hearing tales like this is important for all of us. We achieve a certain level of proficiency and begin to take certain things for granted. You can never be too safe when handling firearms and the safety rules never change.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:48 AM   #15
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Balota, not going to beat you up over this. seems like you're doing well enough doing it to yourself!

glad no one was hurt. we are human and make mistakes. i think you covered all the bases quite well in what happened and how to prevent it from happening in the future.

i fully believe it will happen to all of us at some point if we handle guns long enough. the hopeful part is that we are able to learn from our mistakes and the only thing hurt is our pride.

i admire your courage to post this incident so that others may learn as well. it takes a lot of guts to admit a mistake like this in front of a lot of strangers. you sir have my respect for making this post. God Bless ya brother!
I only can say i hope it never happens to me. I live on the third floor. I always unload and lock my live ammo away in the safe and use the orange plastic snap caps. I wont dry fire with out putting them in and locking the gun room up. Even then ill press check every round. I cant aford a nd. The odds of some one getting hurt is up 3 fold for me.

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Old 01-21-2014, 12:31 PM   #16
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I would venture to guess that 98% of AD's are caused by 100% intentional trigger pulls.
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You learn form your mistakes..... Fortunately no one was in the line of fire.

I myself had a ND this last year. My brother had stopped by my office and I was showing him my XDs .45. As always I dropped the mag and I un chambered the round in the tube before I handed it to him. I never hand a loaded gun to someone when I am showing it to them..... Anyway we sat there talking and talking about the difference in trigger pull between that and our 1911's, when he handed it back to me. Assuming that it was still unloaded I racked the slide to demonstrate the trigger pull. BOOM!!!!! WTF just happened?! While talking I never saw my brother put a loaded mag back in the gun. I shot a hole through the side of a cabinet and through a solid 4" wood block that is an engraving jig. The round then bounced off of the top of the cabinet and landed between us.

I cannot believe I shot off a .45 + P right there in my office. The room was filled with the smell of burnt gunpowder and ther was a fine dust that covered everything. The pressure the gunshot created blew dust off of the drop ceiling all over everything.

Shame an embarrassment about some up that event. It shook me up pretty damn bad and I didn't conceal carry again for at least a month. Nothing is more horrifying than a boom when you are expecting a click!

My case was extreme negligence which I have learned a valuable lesson from. I'm just glad that none of the stories here end with someone accidentally being shot.
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Old 01-21-2014, 12:35 PM   #18
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There is a saying that is very true among IDPA shooters. It's not if you get disqualified for a ND, it is when you get DQed for a ND. The most common ND is when showing clear. You just shot a perfect round. You are looking at all the downed targets. You drop the magazine and forget to clear the chamber.

I went to the 2011 IDPA world championships. A shooter who qualified for the world championships had a ND just like I described. No one needs to scold an experienced shooter after a ND. They are beating up themselves.
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I have only ever witnessed 1 actual accidental discharge the other 3 I saw were all negligent and 1 of them killed a member of my battalion when we were in Iraq in 03-04. The AD was when a battle buddy was leaning into a car searching it with his weapon slung under his arm as he was backing out of the vehicle some piece of the car that was just dangling got stuck inside the trigger guard and pulled the trigger popping a round off into the ground and making us all hit the ground like "WTF was that?"( We carried in condition Black as we had been attacked several times while doing vehicle checkpoints) The one ND where one of our guys was killed was when a group of our battalion REMFs were cleaning weapons and one of them put a cleaning rod down the barrel dislodging the round that was in there and pushing it back into the bolt which released slammed shut discharged the round took a chunk of his finger and hit PFC Sahib( the only Arab in our unit) dead in the chest killing him. That dude was sentenced to like 5 years for negligent homicide
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Question for the jury...

If you drop a rifle from a tree stand and it goes off (about a 12-15' drop) is that a negligent discharge or an accidental discharge? Obviously it's negligent firearms handling...
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