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EagleSix 05-11-2007 12:54 AM

COMBAT: Shooting-on-the-Move
 
During the Battle Pistol Level-II course I introduce students to “Shooting-on-the-Move”. An important criteria of accomplishing this task is a “don’t”.

Don’t TRIP!


During an attack, getting our butt moving can be an effective technique to avoid injury. The principle is really simple and easily understood by almost anyone….”a moving target is more difficult to hit effectively than a stationery target”. Of course “movement” is a relative term, but even a man walking (3 mph) in a straight line induces increased difficulty of shot placement when compared to a stationery paper target. If the target is moving rapidly the difficulty of addressing it is again increased and if that target adds erratic movement even more difficulty will tax our ability to place shots where they count.

Although there are moments one should be rock solid and stationery, for the most part when I’m in the open I want to be that moving target.

This dynamic element of fighting isn’t new, it has been used in martial arts from the creations of those disciplines and probably as far back as the stone ages. Shooting-on-the-Move is however I think better described as Fighting-on-the-Move. Boxers, wrestlers, and students of the martial arts would think this term rather funny because they are almost always on the move while fighting.

But soon as we place a gun in the hands of any of them, they seem to be planted on earth as if their feet were imbedded in a rock hard chunk of concrete. Not surprising because most range facilities provide a place to stand (or sit) while shooting and almost everyone starts that way. Not a bad way to start, it simplifies the learning process and increases safety. And, not everyone who learns how to shoot a gun does it with the intention of defending themselves or others.

For those who wish to improve their skills of self-defense and have mastered the basics of gun handling and marksmanship, they may want to consider implementing some dynamics of body movement into their bag of tricks.

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allmons 05-12-2007 02:26 AM

Excellent advice
 
Where do you teach your class, and how much does it cost?

:)

allmons 05-12-2007 02:40 AM

OK, I saw your location in another post about training.
 
It would be very useful for all of us to practice often and take firearms training classes at least every year or two, but life has a bad habit of getting in the way of my good intentions!

EagleSix 05-12-2007 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmons (Post 1283)
It would be very useful for all of us to practice often and take firearms training classes at least every year or two, but life has a bad habit of getting in the way of my good intentions!

I fully understand. Life is filled with responsibilities, obligations and desires. It's not always easy to care for of all them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmons (Post 1282)
Where do you teach your class, and how much does it cost?

:)

I teach in the Phoenix, Arizona area. After a 10 year stretch of success at the end of 2006 I closed down primary classes at my school TacTrain Skill at Arms Development ( www.tactrain.net ). We used to offer scheduled classes ( almost every week ) and charged $125.00 for a block of instruction ( 8 hour day ) for most classes, CCW was a bit less and some special training was a bit more.

This year I am offering only Private Lessons and Special Groups. I still offer the same training as before I just don't offer a training schedule. As before we also offer special training customized for the client.

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allmons 05-12-2007 10:50 PM

Thanks! Sounds very reasonably priced
 
About how much class time as opposed to firing line time in that 8 hours?

EagleSix 05-13-2007 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by allmons (Post 1310)
About how much class time as opposed to firing line time in that 8 hours?



Depends on the class level and the discipline. For example pistol training starts with the 1st Dimension (16 hours minimum total) and includes Level-I and Level-II (each 8 hours minimum). Level-I starts with about 1.5 – 2.0 hours of range hands-on lectures including several demonstrations as a cold range. The rest of the day (and all subsequent training) is spent on a hot range. Students who graduate from the 1st Dimension may proceed to the 2nd Dimension which includes Level-III through Level-VII each a 1 day 8 hour block which is all range time (of which less than 40% is on a square type training and drills, most of the time is scenario based). Those students successfully completing the Second Dimension are considered for the 3rd Dimension by invite only, which includes various extreme training which remains undisclosed.

CCW classes include about 6 hours of classroom study and 2 hours on the range (this is a mandated state lesson plan). The Anti-Terrorist/counter-Terrorist Level-I course is 8 hours of classroom study. The Battle Rifle, Precision Field Rifle Hunter/Sniper (PFR) course Level-I through Level-V are 2 day courses for each level accept Level-V which is a 3 day course. Level-I includes 3-4 hours of classroom study the 1st day, the rest is on the range. Level-II through IV are 1 day on the range and one day in the field. Level-V is one day in the classroom which includes study and application, 1 day on the range and 1 day in the field.

We try to avoid square range drills and utilize them primarily for initial basic skills and fundamental reinforcement studies. I have found students progress quicker if I can get them thinking sooner and closer to a reality based learning process. We like to “chat less” and “do/shoot more”, but use whatever time is required utilizing whatever means and learning tools will assist the students most.

So if you check out some of the photos of training (at: http://www.tactrain.com/tacops-students.htm) you will see lots of square range stuff and lots of other scenario and movement drills such as this: http://www.tactrain.com/carbine-scrambler.html these are photos of students running a Carbine Scrambler scenario drill during a 2nd Dimension Carbine course.

We shoot a lot on many of the levels, students are mostly manipulating their gun(s) and equipment, involved in shoot/no shoot scenarios, and above all challenged to think their way through a fight. That is what most of the time during class is spent on whether at the range on in the field.

Ooops! Sorry I think I hit the marketing button on that reply….

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Spartan 06-24-2007 03:36 PM

AD forum? Eaglesix?
 
lol, eaglesix, sounds like you have been around for quite awhile, it would be fun to hear some stories about AD's during all your training etc. someone once told me there are two kinds of people, those that have AD's and admit it, and those that lie about it. I've had one, so far, lol, in fact it happened right outside the range in the parking lot, stupid amatuer mistake because not only had i just loaded the damn gun, but the XD had both indicators clearly showing cocked and loaded. thank god no one got hurt.


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