[IGETEVEN]

Originally Posted by canebrake

+1 Chris, good solid advice!

I don’t carry a gun dumbed down to be safe, I carry one that will be incredibly dangerous when I “SAFELY” remove it from my holster and blow some dirt bag’s heart out!

The fears expressed are of personal self control, not weapon safety, grow up and take responsibility! OR, take that weapon out of your pocket!

Indeed, the best advice here.

Personal carry comes with personal responsibility and self control, knowing your weapon like your wive's pleasure zones, and that there are no "do overs" after a life-threatening situation requires you to draw it.

It is over with.

It's final.

Are you confidant? Still standing? Uninjured?

If so, you are the surviving winner! And that......is what this it is all about.

Thanks Cane.

Jack

[dunerunner]

Late on this one, but I carry both my 1991A1 and Taurus 24/7 Pro with a round in the pipe and safety on. There is a good 3 second delay in drawing your weapon and racking the slide to engage a round. If your encounter involves another armed (with a gun) BG, you're at a disadvantage; especially if they have their weapon drawn.

I take carrying a weapon very seriously and I am confident every other member who carries does as well. I run scenarios in my head all the time and there are situations I have thought of that I don't ever want to find myself in, but am prepared mentally to deal with them if it happens.

Remember, once the bullet leaves the muzzle of your gun, there are no do overs.

[canebrake]

Originally Posted by dunerunner

There is a good 3 second delay in drawing your weapon and racking the slide to engage a round. If your encounter involves another armed (with a gun) BG, you're at a disadvantage; especially if they have their weapon drawn.

That heartbeat required to rack a round to battery may well be your last.

[Dillinger]

Originally Posted by dunerunner

There is a good 3 second delay in drawing your weapon and racking the slide to engage a round.

It doesn't even have to be a gun duner.

There was a defense video, I am pretty sure it was a police/FBI training video that showed an officer with a holstered weapon facing two bad guys.

One of the bad guys had a pistol in his waistband and the other had a switchblade knife out and in his hand.

The distance was like 10 feet, 12 feet, something like that.

Before the officer could pull his weapon to shoot the guy with the gun, the guy with the knife had already crossed the distance and mock stabbed the officer.

My thought is this: If you need a weapon in a hurry, you need it now and you need to get it smoking. Taking an additional 2 or 3 seconds to rack a slide is just another 2 or 3 second advantage for the other guy.

Now, if that makes you feel better to carry that way, at least you have a weapon, so that is better than not.

However. Condition 1 is the only way to carry in my opinion.

JD

[dunerunner]

Saw something similar on "Best Defence", I believe they were at either Gunsite or Thunder Ranch. So much for bringing a knife to a gun fight!!

And exactly what my thoughts were when writing my response, situations that make your hair stand!!

I hate posting YouTube vids, especially when I don't know the source well; but this one has some good tips for pocket carry.

YouTube - Pocket Carry

YouTube - Pocket Carry

[WDB]

Carry like your expecting to need it in a milisecond. If you aren't right with that get more training until you are right with that. Anything less might be an advantage to the threat your facing.

Train, then practice, practice and more practice. It takes time but if you don't at some point just might take the time/life you would of had.

[TelstaR]

I cannot imagine a situation where I would lawfully carry a firearm for protection but not have a round in the chamber.

[talontraininggroup]

After teaching cops for over 17 years, please, please, carry a round in the chamber. As was said before, the only way you will accidentally pull that long trigger, is if you put your finger in the trigger guard and pull the trigger. After conducting scenario based training for years with very well trained people, I will tell you, there is no time for you to chamber a round. That is a marginal round in the first place and in a defensive situation, surprise and a head start are what you need. If you take the time to chamber a round, you are shot if he intends to do you harm. If he didn't, now he may. If you have time to approach a bad guy doing harm to another, you may give yourself away by making noise. A small pocket pistol just doesn't have the same effect as a shotgun racking.

Get a pocket holster, load the pistol and carry that way. Just don't carry other items in the same pocket with a pocket gun. Good way to scratch your pistol and maybe snag the trigger. Small chance, but, it is there. I posted some videos on Youtube if you want to see a related video. Search talontraininggroup and look at anything tagged Ruger LCP or similar. There is a distraction drill on one of them.

[Gojubrian]

Relevant to the discussion.

Tueller Drill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

tueller drill - Google Videos

I would always have a round in the chamber.

[cpttango30]

Never understood why you would not carry with a round in the chamber.

What are you going to do when TSHTF? Ask the perp Oh please wait while I draw and load my weapon.

No you need to deploy and use said weapon in a manner in which means life or death.

Having an unloaded gun in a gun fight is just as good as having a rock. You better throw it at him and run away flailing your arms and screaming like a 12 year old girl.