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Old 12-10-2012, 10:17 PM   #41
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Just re-read the story, he was trying to trade that gun in. Who brings a loaded weapon to trade in the first place? Any when he asked for a trade in value why didn't the dealer rack the slide or check the chamber? There may be more than one ignorant person in this story.
But you don't understand . . . He didn't think it was loaded! . See?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:59 AM   #42
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A sad story. As Trip said earlier, if it was my child, they would find 2 bodies.

To me, it was a simple lack of critical thinking. Rule 1 is keep your finger off the bang switch, rule 2 is always assume that the gun is loaded. Even if you know that it is empty, check and make sure it is, then check again. Rule 3 is even more basic than the first 2, never point a gun at something you are not willing to destroy. Simple rules that will prevent a tragedy everytime, and yet there are so many that do not follow them.

The father will have to live with this for the rest of his life. So will the rest of this boy's family, and their friends. This is why I passed on the tradition of knowing the NRA's ten rules of gun safety to my wife and my daughter. It was taught to me by my mother and father before I even handled my first firearm, and as of today, I have only had one AD. That was due to my father and I not knowing that the firing pin on a Jennings J22 protrudes into the chamber when the gun is on "safe". Due to the fact that the rules of safety were followed, all that happened was we both almost needed a change of underwear.

I will not pass judgement on the father, I can assure you that, right now, he is doing enough of that on his own. My ex-wife and her second husband lost a son in a very tragic fashion that I will not go into here. This was 3 years ago, and they are both still living with the consequences and guilt of the events of that day. I still miss their son, and I have seen, first hand what this kind of loss does to a person. No amount of finger pointing and blame will ever bring either of these boys back.


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Old 12-12-2012, 12:37 AM   #43
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Default accidental death of a seven year old.

Fist off my heart and prayers are with the the family. Now the meat and potatoes. Yesterday my local news program aired a report about the accidental death of a seven year old outside of a local gun shop. Apparently the father had ejected the mag and placed his 9mm pistol on the dashboard without clearing the chamber. Somehow the gun slide and went off hitting the child in the chest. But instead of showing the police or what not they decided to show walls and walls of guns in the gun shop. Just kind of pissed me off. /rant

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Old 12-12-2012, 12:59 AM   #44
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We already have a full thread going on it. I can't link from my phone though. Look at something along the lines of "incident and lack of training."

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Old 12-12-2012, 01:53 AM   #46
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people without LOTS of ability/nerve control with guns should stick to knives and clubs, actually. then they are lots less likely to mess up so badly. I;ve seen mere match stress make guys fire ND's, so i'd trust VERY few men around me to have a gun out and in hand, under combat stresses.

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Old 12-15-2012, 09:45 PM   #47
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No matter where you live you must always be prepared even if the threat comes from a rogue pine tree! Lol

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Old 12-15-2012, 10:49 PM   #48
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Guns, like cars come with owner's manuals. Very few read either. Both accidentally kill people regularly.


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Old 12-16-2012, 04:44 AM   #49
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police have a much higher incidence of negligent discharge per capita than the private citizens in the usa do...

you cant say training has any effect on ND. stupid is stupid. mix stupid with anything from beach balls to aircraft carriers and folks are going to get hurt.


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I think that a few people misread the story the father was trying to sell a rifle and his pistol and the sales clerk told him that they don't buy guns coming in off the street.(Not a direct quote from the story but dang close).So where some of you have also pit blame on the store clerk, sorry incorrect.It's definitely a tragedy and something this man will never be able to forget.I can only imagine the nightmares yet to come.It's unbelievable that this guy did not check his guns at home before he brought them to be sold.However there is only one person here to blame and right now he's going through a world of pain.

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