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Old 11-16-2013, 09:21 AM   #21
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As a person that has been fortunate enough to find two of them in my lifetime, the most important thing to me is to find a firearm that fits your hand. I don't mean something that won't beat you up with recoil. I mean something that lines up perfectly with zero body or hand adjustments every time you bring it up to the target. It shouldn't matter where the target is as long as it's downrange. It shouldn't matter what position you are shooting from. When you bring the weapon up seeing a perfect sight picture lined up on the bull is a thing of beauty. When you see it every single time you know the gun fits.

The second thing would be trigger distance and stroke. Now that you have that perfect fit between gun and hand you don't want to throw it off by having to use too much strength or too long a stroke to fire the weapon.

Once you have these two things you can work on the rest of your skills, but without the right fit and the right trigger pull everything else is an uphill battle.

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Old 11-16-2013, 10:43 AM   #22
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1) always following gun safety rules
2) be good at taking notes and making corrections (ammo, sight/scope settings etc)
3) TAKE YOUR TIME. breathe easy. hitting a target of any type at any distance is all about keeping your cool, under fire or otherwise

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Trigger control, sight alignment, sight picture. Plain and simple. EVERYTHING ELSE rides on those 3. Get them wrong and you've blown it.

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Does a shotgun sitting in a home for defensive purposes count as using it?

Does a CCW gun on the hip count as being used?

"Ready to use it" sounds to me like ready to fire it.
A firearm in your control, being used as a concealed carry is one example of a firearm in use. Use does not mean, muzzle on target, finger on trigger.

Could also include instances of open carry, depending on your local laws.

A gun on a high shelf, or in a closet is an example of a gun that should not be loaded. This example should also be in an appropriate gun safe, or in some way, properly secured.

A night stand gun, should be locked in a quick open electronic or simplex locking safe.

Night stand gun, with yourself in a well locked down environment? Case by case judgment call. Think every possibility through. If it could happen. It might happen.
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A firearm in your control, being used as a concealed carry is one example of a firearm in use. Use does not mean, muzzle on target, finger on trigger.

Could also include instances of open carry, depending on your local laws.

A gun on a high shelf, or in a closet is an example of a gun that should not be loaded. This example should also be in an appropriate gun safe, or in some way, properly secured.

A night stand gun, should be locked in a quick open electronic or simplex locking safe.

Night stand gun, with yourself in a well locked down environment? Case by case judgment call. Think every possibility through. If it could happen. It might happen.

I don't have kids, or anyone else living in my home, other than my wife. I keep my handgun on my nightstand, loaded, with one in the chamber. (SIG SP2022 in .40) I also have a Winchester Model 120 in 20 gauge with an 18 1/2" barrel. Loaded up full, with one in the chamber. That one is kept on the wife's side of the bed. I shoot number 3 buck. I have a Simplex push-button safe; Why would I ever keep my SD weapon there? If we have friends with kids at the house, my bedroom door is locked, and I carry the SIG on my hip. (concealed) I've also set my alarm for 3 am, with my SIG in the safe. Alarm goes off, I wake up, and try to manipulate the push buttons. THAT ain't gonna happen! Fine motor skills go all to hell, when you're half awake. Just MHO
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In this order:
Trigger control
Sight picture

and the nothing for a while and then
Grip

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The first thing you MUST have is a gun/ammo combination which is inherently accurate. No matter how you try with the proper sight picture, stance, trigger control, and breathing if the gun is not inherently accurate you will not do well. I always put a gun (hand gun or long gun) on the 'bench' and take as much of the 'human factor' out of the equation as I can and see how 'it' shoots before I try and see how well 'I' can shot.

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Grip, Trigger control, sight picture. In that order, muscle memory will lend itself more in sight picture then the other two.

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Handguns:
grip, trigger control, sight picture

Rifles:
breathing, trigger control, posture



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