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Old 05-19-2009, 02:29 AM   #11
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I've shot some high end air soft and will say there is no honest training value offered. No/little recoil and little noise. My rub with these toys is many look like real firearms so now LOE's have to wonder if it's real or airsoft? I expect it has already happened where a LEO shot someone using these toys while conducting a criminal act. Toy firearms should be just that and look like toys. There is no value to these toys with the exception they look like real firearms and give the person who can't own a real firearm a toy that looks real. If you want the expereince with out the cost of shooting a real firearm try paint ball....then again those guns don't look like real firearms. There is no one that can say with a straight face an air soft AR or AK gives the feel of the real thing. It's a BB gun shooting plasic bb's dressed up to look like a real firearm.

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Train as you fight.

Think of it this way. When a person wants to run a 5K, does he train by running or walking?

If you want to become more proficient with real firearms, you MUST practice with a real firearm. Practicing with an Airsoft will only give you false confidence in your skills.

These days some firearms are cheaper than higher end Airsoft BB guns anyway.

If you can, train with a real firearm. Along with that, get professional instruction if possible.

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Train as you fight.

Think of it this way. When a person wants to run a 5K, does he train by running or walking?

If you want to become more proficient with real firearms, you MUST practice with a real firearm. Practicing with an Airsoft will only give you false confidence in your skills.

These days some firearms are cheaper than higher end Airsoft BB guns anyway.

If you can, train with a real firearm. Along with that, get professional instruction if possible.
You guys use MILES much?
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Yeah. We are finally using the new stuff that is alot tougher, and less prone to f**ing up in the field.

I remember some of the older gear, you could get to "fire" off by just hitting the butt of your rifle with enough force (instant silent kills...lol).

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Yeah. We are finally using the new stuff that is alot tougher, and less prone to f**ing up in the field.

I remember some of the older gear, you could get to "fire" off by just hitting the butt of your rifle with enough force (instant silent kills...lol).
I did Eagle Flag up at Ft Dix and one of the guys from my squadron brought his Nintendo DS with him and the wireless signal kept getting him killed. Funny stuff.
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Yeah. We are finally using the new stuff that is alot tougher, and less prone to f**ing up in the field.

I remember some of the older gear, you could get to "fire" off by just hitting the butt of your rifle with enough force (instant silent kills...lol).
We used to crank the sensitivity of the fire sensor way down, then just bump it with our fingers.
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Train as you fight.

Think of it this way. When a person wants to run a 5K, does he train by running or walking?

If you want to become more proficient with real firearms, you MUST practice with a real firearm. Practicing with an Airsoft will only give you false confidence in your skills.

These days some firearms are cheaper than higher end Airsoft BB guns anyway.

If you can, train with a real firearm. Along with that, get professional instruction if possible.
Got a "go" here, ain't nothing like the real thing and trigger pull is much different with Airsoft. Hell, you just as well put a laser site on your gun and site target with it. Poor man's Miles.
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Here's a good training setup:

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If you want the ultimate realistic experiece get a full sized 1:1 scale metal gas blowback shell ejection rifle/pistol.You can even get airsoft shotguns(spreadshot) and rocket/missile launchers.

Me and my close freinds always spend then weekend simulating warfare with airsoft weapons.CTF,Patrol,offence,defence,ambushes,wilder ness survival,escape etc.Learn good skills and install good mindsets.But if you mix it will actuall firearms training just as intense against fake targets you get the best of both world.But you must always have a marshal in airsoft because people always cheat.My old trick was no armour,so people actually felt it and it hurts with 450fps or more.Plus airsoft splatter grenades are fun too.So instead of surrendering and going to safe spot you lie there calling for a medic who can also be hit.Always simulate medical care(real) as well could come in handy.Adding karts,hovercrafts,motorbikes,vehicles and even helicopters/plance/aircraft would make it more realistic and fun,but expensive.

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well, maybe for squad and tactical maneuvers airsoft can be beneficial. If you use the 30 round mags instead of the 600 round mags that would be even more helpful. Don't drop hundreds on a gun, anyone will do. Sure, a gun with blanks and a judge like a reenactment would be even more helpful, but also more expensive and harder to do in say, a more suburban area.

For actual shooting and tactical shooting drills, real firearms are good. Airsoft will only help with some tactics

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