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Old 06-10-2013, 05:10 AM   #31
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I don't suspect inbreeding, first cousins, incompatible blood types, or vaccine induced retardation. I do suspect their was an adult, responsible for the welfare of a minor child, and unsafe gun handeling practices caused a neglegant discharge of the firearm causing the death of the child. Very sad.

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Anybody can have brain fart. A professional trigger-puller can have a f*ck-up moment with a firearm. Seen it. Usually turns out to be a harmless wake-up call, but it can happen to anybody. The less experience, the less training, the higher the risk of the brain fart being lethal. And the truth is there are a lot of people out there with guns who have not had sufficient training.

I don't know the level of the father's experience in this particular case but it doesn't really matter. His life is ruined. If I ever killed one of my sons through negligence with a firearm, I'd turn the gun on myself.

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It is a terrible that it happen, but this guy in the tape is really hamming it up about the firearms bit. What he failed to tell in the video is that appox. 12,000 kids die by various accidents every year in the US. 500 are by firearms. That does not excuse people from mis-handing guns or having them where kids can get hold of them, but over 3,000 die by autos each years. Its a dangerous world out there and one has to be on guard at all times. I live on the ocean, and year after year, the drownings mount up.

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Once again people let emotion rule over logic.
The probability of 'any' child being killed or injured by a 'gun' accident like this one is EXTREMELY low. The probability of 'any' child being killed or injured by the father while DRIVING to and from the gun store is millions of time greater!!!
This is VERY unfortunate, but even more unfortunate is to allow this incident to be exploited to continue the secular progressive agenda of indoctrinating people to believe firearms are inherently unsafe, which they are not!

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When I started this thread it was with the purpose of emphasizing the importance of gun safety. True, the father shooting the young son was an accident, but an avoidable one. You can't avoid a drunk driver crashing into you on the way to work but you can avoid shooting your 7 year old son in the chest by checking to make sure the gun is unloaded and always, always and always pointing the muzzle in a safe direction even when your sure the gun is empty.

True many children die or get killed by other means and/or accidents and probably many of those could also have been avoided but this incident is directly related to us who defend the second amendment. It hurts us and what we defend when people mishandle guns and end up hurting someone, specially a child. We know its going to get blown way out of proportion. Lets not give the YoungTurds more reasons to talk about.

I say again, lets go beyond the call of duty and practice safety. Please.

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couple months back right before the new year i snatched a firearm, that was being shown to a father at my local gunstore, out of the father's hands as he was pointing it at his 4 year old and saying "a gun does what??" as he was cocking it... as i grabbed it the kid says "BOOM!!"

i told the father he is damn lucky this is a public venue with witnesses or i woulda beat his ass on the spot... the gun store proprieter ran his ass out of the store.

its sad when children lose their lives through the negligence of their parents. but i wouldnt classify this as an accidental shooting in the least. it was no accident he pointed the gun at a child and no accident he pulled the trigger. it was simple negligence and lack of respect and love for his child.

an accident would be an earthquake knocking a loaded gun over or an animal activating the trigger. a bullet hitting a buried object and ricocheting back is an accident, a human point it at another human and pulling the trigger is not an accident.

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Actress Katee Sackoff said she lost half of her Twitter followers when she tweeted a message urging people to practice gun safety.

After watching a television report about a four-year-old who accidentally shot and killed his father with a loaded gun that had been left unattended at a friend’s house, the “Battlestar Galactica” star tweeted Monday:

“Please practice gun safety. This is horrible!”

Soon after, Sackoff’s Twitter feed blew up with followers advocating gun control instead of gun safety.

“Here's a radical idea folks. How about NO gun?” one wrote.

Sackoff responded to her critics: “Never gonna happen in the US. Proper gun safety is a necessity though.”

That did not satisfy many, who continued to criticize her initial comment.

Sackoff tried to elaborate on her position: “Just to be clear...I NEVER said automatic guns should be legal!“

But it was too late. While many came to her defense (“I don't understand why @kateesackhoff got so much flack for a gun safety tweet. She's right”), her initial comment apparently cost her about 100,000 Twitter followers.

Later on Monday, Sackoff tweeted: “On a lighter note since I've lost half my followers due to talking about gun safety...the sun is shining & Happy Monday! Love your neighbor today!”


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couple months back right before the new year i snatched a firearm, that was being shown to a father at my local gunstore, out of the father's hands as he was pointing it at his 4 year old and saying "a gun does what??" as he was cocking it... as i grabbed it the kid says "BOOM!!"

i told the father he is damn lucky this is a public venue with witnesses or i woulda beat his ass on the spot... the gun store proprieter ran his ass out of the store.

its sad when children lose their lives through the negligence of their parents. but i wouldnt classify this as an accidental shooting in the least. it was no accident he pointed the gun at a child and no accident he pulled the trigger. it was simple negligence and lack of respect and love for his child.

an accident would be an earthquake knocking a loaded gun over or an animal activating the trigger. a bullet hitting a buried object and ricocheting back is an accident, a human point it at another human and pulling the trigger is not an accident.
To a certain degree I agree with you JohnM but I consider an accident anything that happens without planning and that is not wanted and/or desirable.

I'm sure that man did not intend on killing his little boy but he did. To some SMALL degree it can be called an accident. On the other hand, he was NEGLIGENT on an upper scale and is responsible for the death of his baby. I'm sure he will suffer for the rest of his life. I know that if something like where to happen to me, god forbid, my life would be over.
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Well rickster you and the U.S. Air Force would be at odds then. We were told the only "accident" we could have was a meteor falling on our truck. Everything else is negligence.

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Most accidents are, directly or indirectly, a result of negligence.

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