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Old 08-14-2009, 03:11 AM   #21
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Great write up and pics sarge! It's so cool to have you back.

I mostly agree with your assesment and I wouldn't grab a stick over a .22. I know I can put my cci .22lr's on a tighter 10rd group than I can my other handguns.
I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a bad guy with my browning if it was within reach.

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Old 08-19-2009, 03:32 AM   #22
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Sarge I can tell you have alot of respect on this site. You have mine as well. I brought this issue up on another forum 2 years ago and they tore me apart in a way that I quit responding. I have heard it said more than once the people have said that they would rather be shot with a bigger round than the 22. I heard it makes scrambled eggs with a headshot.

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Sarge I can tell you have alot of respect on this site. You have mine as well. I brought this issue up on another forum 2 years ago and they tore me apart in a way that I quit responding. I have heard it said more than once the people have said that they would rather be shot with a bigger round than the 22. I heard it makes scrambled eggs with a headshot.
The thought on a .22 head shot is that the round carries enough energy to break threw the skull but not enough to break back out the other side. In other words, it would bounce around inside your dome, shreading the brain appart. Thats why it was the mobs round of choice!
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:05 PM   #24
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The .22 has been a favorite of hit men partly because it makes less noise and is even quieter with a silencer. The traditional mob coup de gras is 3 in the head, at least in Sicily.
The book, " The Hit Team ", by Dag Christenson describes a special .22 Beretta that the Mossad uses. They shoot the victim multiple times, so he is unlikely to survive. The Israelis are believed to have assassinated Gerald Bull, who was shot about 14 times with .22s. The book, " Vengeance " by Jacobs and a recent book about revenge for the Munich massacre deal with the subject of Israeli hit teams also.

A classic .22 failure was the attempted hit on a Libyan dissident living in the U.S. A former Green Beret shot him in the head with a .22 magnum but he survived. The story is detailed in the book, " Manhunt " by Peter Maas.

Years ago, a man was robbed and beaten in San Franciso and showed up at a hospital complaining of a headache. An X-ray revealed 5 .22 bullets lodged in his head. One of the bullets missed a vital area by a half-inch. The story was in all the papers.

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Nice write up... Even for someone like myself that does not shoot often, I can throw some 22lr rounds down range in a rapid fashion and get decent groupings. I certainly would not want to be on the receiving end of a 22lr round, or any round for that matter

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never felt insecure when all i had was my 10/22 with 25 and 50 round mags. i can double tap and triple tap like crazy and i've even put almost 5 rounds in about an inch that way...my stingers can make a milk jug explode so...i dont think id have any problems dropping an attacker with my "lowly" .22lr

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In my hometown,an ex-boyfriend was trying to break into the home of her mother. The mom warned the bg that she was armed and would shoot if he kicked the door down. She had a .22 revolver,the door was kicked in and she fired 1 shot into his chest. The small bullet dropped him in her kitchen where he then expired. Was she lucky? Maybe. Is she still alive? Yes she is. A .22 isnt my primary def weapon but a lot better than an empty hand.

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Gentlemen-
It is worth noting that in the old West, before antibiotics, a gut shot usually meant death. No one wanted to be shot with anything, so simply pointing a .22 would intimidate an attacker.

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Interesting write up I saw a while back.
Surprising 22lr standard velocity penetration at long range involving three layers of clothing and a semi-frozen turkey
Lethality of the 22LR- Results! - Sniper's Hide Forums

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Does anybody remember the DOJ study and its Relative Incapacitation Index? The RII took into account how accuately most people could fire a given cartridge. Consequently, the .22LR rated higher than the .45 ACP in stopping power.

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