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JonM 03-04-2012 08:09 PM

restoring a mosin
 
picked up this hex mosin this weekend and im going to use it as a restoration and try and make it look nicer. so far ive stripped off the shellac coating using denatured alcohol then 100 gritted it to get what littl remains off. still need to use fine grit to smooth it out.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9742/img0349u.jpg

by next weekend it should be ready for whatever color. but im stuck at what finish to use.

anyone got some suggestions?? pics would be ideal. i want it to really stand out at the range.

here is the stock as it sits now still got some very small nooks to remove shellac and of course final sanding.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3031/img0384cz.jpg

tarheel4747 03-05-2012 01:31 AM

Jon,
While I am certainly no expert, I did get some good advice on restoring my Mosin. After removing the old finish and sanding, I used red oak minwax stain followed by 8 coats of Tru Oil. I used 0000 steel wool between coats to lightly sand the finish after allowing a couple hours of drying time. This process worked pretty well for me, hope it helps.

tarheel4747 03-05-2012 01:37 AM

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Jon,
While I am certainly no expert, I did get some good advice on restoring my Mosin. After removing the old finish and sanding, I used red oak minwax stain followed by 8 coats of Tru Oil. I used 0000 steel wool between coats to lightly sand the finish after allowing a couple hours of drying time. This process worked pretty well for me, hope it helps.

Here is the after picture.

mountainman13 03-05-2012 01:47 AM

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Tru-oil works great. I've used it many times. I won't bother on a stain selection too many options out there. Just say try it in a small hidden spot first to make sure you like it. If you want a very plain in the stock finish buffing bees wax into the stock works well.

JonM 03-05-2012 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainman13 (Post 729122)
Tru-oil works great. I've used it many times. I won't bother on a stain selection too many options out there. Just say try it in a small hidden spot first to make sure you like it. If you want a very plain in the stock finish buffing bees wax into the stock works well.

that looks good but im looking for a shiny redder finish

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Here is the after picture.

i like that red. im thinking of a darker red like a red mahogony.

the main sealers im considering are tru oil boiled linseed and tung oil. im leaning towards tung oil.

mountainman13 03-05-2012 02:57 AM

tung oil works great too as far as linseed goes it may have been widely used back in the day but its really not a great finish it really doesn't seal or protect very well and requires upkeep

texaswoodworker 03-05-2012 07:04 AM

Minwax makes a red mahogany stain. They also make a waterbased stain called fruit punch (bright red) and china red (deeper dark red). http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/stains-color-guide/

As for the glossy look, it looks like the tru oil is pretty glossy.

You could also use a "CLEAR" shellac (make sure it is clear, regular shellac is a deep amber color). I haven't ever used shellac over stain though, so I don't know how it would turn out. (Be warned, shellac begins to dry in seconds, work fast when using it) I usually apply the first coat, sand it with a high grit sandpaper (320-400), then add a few extra coats. If it doesn't look completely smooht after a coat, just sand it smooth, then add another coat.

Good luck, don't forget to post pics of your progress. :D I can't wait to see how it turns out.

TheOldMan 03-05-2012 02:07 PM

Jon I "normally" use minwax stains on all of my restorations as they seem to have vurtually every color to match the original finishes I've seen on milsurps. Now if I want to go flashy, I use Tru Oil. If I want a nice warm semi flashy finish I use (and prefer most times) BLO... Another option that I like is the hand rubbed paste wax or bees wax finish..

In the end it's all in what you want the end result to look like. But remember, the original finish was shellac..

mountainman13 03-05-2012 04:50 PM

I've heard turtle wax actually works pretty well. Never tried it.

JonM 03-05-2012 10:43 PM

went over to menards (wisconsin version of lowes but cheaper) and picked out a stain that is likely to make the most awesome mosin thats ever existed!! was looking for a dark red and found something better (i hope). if it works out the way i think its gonna be totally awesome. more on it later when it gets a coat or two.

wont be using shellac. the wife has banned me from using it in the house after the last project... i know its original but i want it a little nicer.

picked up some more sandpaper to finish the sanding and found copper and brass sheets for making handguard caps and sling estuchions(sp??). didnt buy any of the sheets yet as i dont know the thickness i need and havent decided on brass or copper.


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