You are Unregistered, please register to use all of the features of FirearmsTalk.com!    
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Gunsmithing & Do-It-Yourself Projects > Engraving & Refinishing >

just wondering


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-22-2013, 03:46 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
outlaw206's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 99
Liked 9 Times on 7 Posts

Default just wondering

How did the old armory's engrave there weapons such as a 1860 colt i understand it was most likely done by hand but was it done with a hand engraver or a more primitive type machine that was operated by hand
outlaw206 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 10-23-2013, 12:47 AM   #2
Supporting Member
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Sniper03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 7,057
Liked 4798 Times on 2281 Posts
Likes Given: 2352

Default

Outlaw,

In the day the engravers were truly artists and craftsmen. We only have a few today with this skill. But they did the engraving by hand which was a very tedious and time consuming task. Taking days, months and sometimes longer to complete.

03
__________________
The Constitution is not an instrument for the Government to restrain the people. It is an instrument for the people to restrain the Government!
*Patrick Henry

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed. Unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.”
James Madison. Author of the 2nd Amendment

Last edited by Sniper03; 10-23-2013 at 12:50 AM.
Sniper03 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2013, 01:27 AM   #3
Administrator
FTF_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
c3shooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Third bunker on the right,Central Virginia
Posts: 19,720
Liked 13330 Times on 5662 Posts
Likes Given: 2209

Default

There is engraving (literally, carving away steel) and there is stamping. A hardened steel stamp is struck against the softer metal. THAT gets you things like a brand name, address, and serial number. There were also roll marks, where things like a cylinder would have a designed rolled onto it- again by hardened steel dies.

True engraving was (except on very high dollar custom made guns) an addition charge item. The process of real engraving has not changed a lot- except better lighting for the engraver. Small chisels held in hand, struck by small hammer, held in the hand (of an artist). There is a powered chisel (Gravermeister is one I recall) that comes close.

We have been fortunate in the past to have a visiting member, Mr. Ken Hurst. I was lucky enough to visit Mr. Hurst's shop in Campbell County VA. He asked me to leave as my constant drooling was rusting the guns.

Want to see some of his work- and the mysterious KH himself? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=136 6&bih=673&q=ken+hurst+engraver&oq=ken+hurst&gs_l=i mg.1.1.0j0i24l6j0i10i24j0i24l2.2902.5877.0.10750.9 .9.0.0.0.0.181.911.6j3.9.0....0...1ac.1.29.img..0. 9.898.z5pHyLYWzWo#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=f8NlktgOi hRJSM%3A%3BPEioe_QROrdblM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .knifetalkforums.com%252Fubbthreads.php%253Fubb%25 3Ddownload%2526Number%253D14400%2526filename%253Dt 7zghy.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.knifetalkforums .com%252Fubbthreads.php%253Fubb%253Dshowflat%2526N umber%253D93217%2526page%253Dall%3B425%3B640
__________________
What we have here is... failure- to communicate.
c3shooter is offline  
Sniper03 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2013, 01:43 AM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 723
Liked 266 Times on 179 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

I do a little bit of engraving.
Mr. Hurst is a Master engraver.
engcub.jpg   mod6.jpg  

Last edited by BillDeShivs; 10-24-2013 at 01:52 AM.
BillDeShivs is offline  
4
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2013, 11:54 PM   #5
Administrator
FTF_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
c3shooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Third bunker on the right,Central Virginia
Posts: 19,720
Liked 13330 Times on 5662 Posts
Likes Given: 2209

Default

Bill- that is very nice work! Got any more pics?
__________________
What we have here is... failure- to communicate.
c3shooter is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2013, 11:56 PM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 723
Liked 266 Times on 179 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Thank you! There are a few more on billdeshivs.com I think.
BillDeShivs is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2013, 01:46 AM   #7
Administrator
FTF_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
c3shooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Third bunker on the right,Central Virginia
Posts: 19,720
Liked 13330 Times on 5662 Posts
Likes Given: 2209

Default

Interesting site, Bill. Did not know you were a cutler. Still have one of those weird orange handled pocket knives with the hooked blade. Damage to my back made me quit jumping, but still have my suspension line cutter.
__________________
What we have here is... failure- to communicate.
c3shooter is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2013, 01:52 AM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 723
Liked 266 Times on 179 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Damage to my back is about to keep me from doing anything! Serious pain from a bulged disc!
An orange MC-1 Was my first auto.
Thank you for your kind remarks.
BillDeShivs is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2013, 01:58 AM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,627
Liked 1276 Times on 665 Posts
Likes Given: 51

Default

Very nice work -- both the engraving and knives.
txpossum is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2013, 05:32 AM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
outlaw206's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 99
Liked 9 Times on 7 Posts

Default

Thank you gentlemen for the info im thinking about trying my hand at this and bill them are awesome
outlaw206 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Just wondering unclebear Ammunition & Reloading 24 08-22-2013 09:16 PM
im just wondering gunguy1997 Legal and Activism 5 05-05-2012 08:35 PM
just wondering rjgnwdc 1911 Forum 12 04-10-2012 09:45 AM
I'm wondering somawas .22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion 3 04-04-2012 06:39 PM
Just wondering could someone help me out with something Chaosut The Club House 8 11-28-2007 09:11 PM