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Old 10-22-2013, 03:46 PM   #1
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How did the old armory's engrave there weapons such as a 1860 colt i understand it was most likely done by hand but was it done with a hand engraver or a more primitive type machine that was operated by hand

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Old 10-23-2013, 12:47 AM   #2
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In the day the engravers were truly artists and craftsmen. We only have a few today with this skill. But they did the engraving by hand which was a very tedious and time consuming task. Taking days, months and sometimes longer to complete.

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There is engraving (literally, carving away steel) and there is stamping. A hardened steel stamp is struck against the softer metal. THAT gets you things like a brand name, address, and serial number. There were also roll marks, where things like a cylinder would have a designed rolled onto it- again by hardened steel dies.

True engraving was (except on very high dollar custom made guns) an addition charge item. The process of real engraving has not changed a lot- except better lighting for the engraver. Small chisels held in hand, struck by small hammer, held in the hand (of an artist). There is a powered chisel (Gravermeister is one I recall) that comes close.

We have been fortunate in the past to have a visiting member, Mr. Ken Hurst. I was lucky enough to visit Mr. Hurst's shop in Campbell County VA. He asked me to leave as my constant drooling was rusting the guns.

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I do a little bit of engraving.
Mr. Hurst is a Master engraver.

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Bill- that is very nice work! Got any more pics?

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Thank you! There are a few more on billdeshivs.com I think.

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Interesting site, Bill. Did not know you were a cutler. Still have one of those weird orange handled pocket knives with the hooked blade. Damage to my back made me quit jumping, but still have my suspension line cutter.

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Damage to my back is about to keep me from doing anything! Serious pain from a bulged disc!
An orange MC-1 Was my first auto.
Thank you for your kind remarks.

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Very nice work -- both the engraving and knives.

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Thank you gentlemen for the info im thinking about trying my hand at this and bill them are awesome

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