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Old 08-16-2014, 10:39 AM   #51
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"Applied coating."
If you brush, spray, or dip it on, it's still paint.
Anything that goes over bare metal can be classified as an applied coating Bill. Even plating like chrome and nickle. All the OP wanted was help in selecting a finish option. Cerakote and Duracoat are both excellent products and in some cases perform better than some factory finishes I've been seeing lately. Even better, they are products that can be applied by anyone.
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"Applied coating."

If you brush, spray, or dip it on, it's still paint.

Chrome is paint? Where can I get that "paint" to spray it out of my HVLP gun?


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HEY guys I wanna cerakote some of my pistols (mainly my Glock frames) but have no clue as to how the process goes. Any insight on this stuff? Do I have to bake it in the oven? And BTW I want the best finish available so if its sub par to cerakote, don't mention it. From what I hear cerakote is the best aftermarket finish available. So I need to know if I need any special tools or anything like that, how it cures, etc. All help is appreciated.

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I never said that chrome is paint. You don't "dip it on," it's an electrolytic process.
I was offering the "applied coating" terminology as an alternative to "paint."
I never said that Cerakote was a bad coating. I said it is paint, and it is. I know the "paint" terminology bothers you guys that want to customize your guns. Modern guns offer little in the way of customizing canvases. It just doesn't sound special to say "I had my gun painted," but it's the truth.
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So by your definition would you also consider powder coating to be painting? Just because it is not plated such as chrome, or salt bath nitrided or nickel boron coated does not make it paint. The make up is entirely different then paint hence the durability. Calling it paint over and over and over again really just sounds like your are trying to cheapen the product and/or results.

I myself have done an Ar build where I have had all of the receiver parts NiB-X coated by WMD. Many done with salt bath nitrided barrels and BCG's. One with a TiN BCG. And a bunch with Cerakote. In fact every one of my AR's is Cerakoted. In my own unscientific testing it holds up better than the original anodizing. The NiB-X was the most durable of the exterior finishes and cleans the easiest.

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Very we'll said sir!
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From Wikipedia:
"Paint is any liquid, liquefiable, or mastic composition that, after application to a substrate in a thin layer, converts to a solid film. It is most commonly used to protect, color, or provide texture to objects. Paint can be made or purchased in many colors—and in many different types, such as watercolor, artificial, etc. Paint is typically stored, sold, and applied as a liquid, but dries into a solid."

Now, I'm done here. I have been threatened twice over semantics. How ridiculous!
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Hi Guys

I have something to say about all of this subject !

Just go with a complete, full stainless gun and you don't have the issues of things chipping, peeling, cracking and wearing off to the bare metal ! lol

Truth is I just joined this forum two days ago and I find it very interesting!
I just wanted to say hi to everybody and I really enjoy reading all the information posted here, there is so many knowledgeable people on this forum.
I'm really looking forward to learning more about my guns even though I've been around guns for 45 years

I also want to pay a special thank you to all the veterans out there this past Veterans Day for all that you served and given to our country, to me and my family thank you very much !

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I have two guns that I have owned for over 30 years. They are just blued finish on shiny metal. For well over 10 years the guns sat without any care. I was busy traveling the US. Both of the guns look like new. I also have a marlin 60 that is a little older. The Marlin 60 has some rust and a warped stock because it was left in the trunk of a car for years. The Marlin still shoots good and really doesn't look that bad. The only thing I have done that destroyed the finish on a gun is I left my Super Blackhawk in the bottom of a boat all winter. When I found the Super Blackhawk it was sitting in water with ice all over it. I sent the SB back to Ruger. In a couple months my Super Blackhawk was sitting on my door step looking better than it did when it was new.

Would Cerakote have fared any better? Glock claims their finish will last 28 years in salt water. I have yet to see that Glock that has been swimming for the past 28 years.
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Hi Guys

I have something to say about all of this subject !

Just go with a complete, full stainless gun and you don't have the issues of things chipping, peeling, cracking and wearing off to the bare metal ! lol

Truth is I just joined this forum two days ago and I find it very interesting!
I just wanted to say hi to everybody and I really enjoy reading all the information posted here, there is so many knowledgeable people on this forum.
I'm really looking forward to learning more about my guns even though I've been around guns for 45 years

I also want to pay a special thank you to all the veterans out there this past Veterans Day for all that you served and given to our country, to me and my family thank you very much !

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what you say is true to an extent. but stainless steel guns will rust as well. they are more resistant to rust, but not immune. and how much a stainless steel gun can rust depends on the alloy content of the metal.
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