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View Poll Results: Would a Doctor and their blind S.O. BOTH be let in to your SHTF group?
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Depends, maybe this blind person had other valuable skills, it's up for evaluation. 3 12.50%
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:20 AM   #1
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I know this has been discussed, but not in this way that I've seen or recall;

I fully understand and agree that you could not "save" everybody, and that everyone who would be part of the group had better bring something to the table. BUT....would just being able-bodied and willing to work and learn be enough? I ask because I know a few couples where one of the 2 has an extremely usefull skill, the other does not. Specifically, one is an RN, the other is an ex Army Ranger. Her husband and his wife is a bicycle tech., and teacher. Not to knock teachers or bike techs or anything, but would this count as being qualified for entrance? Lets say that changed to a doctor who had a blind SO. How about then? I am also not dissing blind people, my father is legally blind, that's why I chose this example. Now, I ask because I do not know how I'd react. On the one hand, I fully agree that everyone has to pull their weight. On the other, how could I ever put someone out to (possibly) die? Don't know if I could.

In addition, I would like to know what could be done about putting together a group of people, when one has no trusted friends or family who is like-minded? I feel that the very best I could accomplish would be to get everyone to agree on one place to meet if anything ever went down. There is no money to prep for some of them, and for others there is no drive. (The Govt. will surely save us.)



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Old 10-14-2012, 03:23 AM   #2
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Everyone can help the community. They could cook, clean, pull weeds, etc. in some cases like your father, the community would have to pull together and take care of him. I don't have a problem taking care of those that cant but, i refuse to help those that choose not to contribute, I think everybody is eligible until they prove themselves otherwise.



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Exactly. Even if you have a blind lady who can't do anything but sweep the floor, it's worth it in exchange for a doctor and to free another set of more capable hands, IMHO.

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anybody with a skill and willing to lend a hand in anyway would be a worthwhile addition

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Reminds me of a riddle from HIGHLIGHTS when I was a little boy...

There's a bad accident. The father and son are critically hurt and rushed to the hospital. The surgeon looks at the first patient and says "oh my God, I can't operate on this boy, he's my son." How is this possible?

Answer: the doctor is his mother.

This made perfect sense once. I found it funny how at least Trip is a little stuck in that past. Anyway, the answer to the poll is not one of the choices...

Take only the blind girlfriend.

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My son goes to school with a blind girl. She is in class with every other kid.
Yes some extra help if provided via an aid, but she is expected to keep up
and does, she is regularly on the High Honor roll. She also competes in
Cross Country. Blindness or other handicaps are not always hinderances.

Skills have value but personal attitude is more important. A strong moral
compass, ethic, and the willingness to contribute is more important than
education.

That's my opinion.

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As long as they both are willing to contribute to the group in whatever way they can they would both be welcome. The person who would not be welcome is the lazy slob who just taxes resources without contributing anything. That person could be my own brother. If he isn't going to contribute at least enough to support himself then adios hermano.

Here's how I see it. A doctor in a small group like what I envision would not be doctoring very much (a medic might be a better person to have). Doctors tend to be specialists in certain areas. Say you got a neurosurgeon (one of my best friends is one) he is not going to be able to practice his specialty in a SHTF scenario unless you have a full surgical staff and a hospital in your group as well.

Heck, I would put my money on the blind gal being more useful than the doctor.

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Heck, I would put my money on the blind gal being more useful than the doctor.
Well, I was imagining a General practitioner, actually. And we really do have an RN in the family. I agree, those skills would be highly beneficial.

Those are some good answers. Makes me feel better that the general consensus would be that being able bodied and willing is enough. And I never thought about the freeing up of more skilled hands part. Also a good point, trip.
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As long as the blind person is willing to do fair share of the work, I would let them both in. And honestly, I would not want a doctor who was willing to turn his back on his S.O. to be a part of the group. The blind person may be able to teach the group some valuable skills: using other senses and memory to navigate the area quickly and quietly at night, noticing and using sounds that others might overlook, etc.

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Some blind people are far more aware then someone who has sight. Let em in!



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