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 06-17-2008, 05:42 PM | #11 | Dirty Old Man, Emiritus Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 7,291 |
The milsurp rifles are good, long range, and not real pricy. I shoot Mausers, SKS's, Enfields, O3's, etc. But for CHEEP- ugly but reliable- the Russian Moisin-Nagant 91/30 is hard to beat. The ammo is about 30-06 power range, bolt action- and if you need a shorter one, get an M-38 or M-44 carbine- same caliber. Paid less than $100 for each of mine. Another $100 will get as much Milsurp ammo as you will shoot in the next couple of years. Or you can spend $900 on an AR-15 with half the range and faints at the sight of dirt (yeah, that oughta stir 'em up!  ) | 
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| 06-17-2008, 08:44 PM | #12 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
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Or you can spend $900 on an AR-15 with half the range and faints at the sight of dirt (yeah, that oughta stir 'em up! ) |
Nope. Not even touching that one. The last two AR versus AK battles have raged for weeks....
JD __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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Originally Posted by doctherock
Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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| 06-17-2008, 10:56 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 3,252 | 
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Originally Posted by c3shooter
The milsurp rifles are good, long range, and not real pricy. I shoot Mausers, SKS's, Enfields, O3's, etc. But for CHEEP- ugly but reliable- the Russian Moisin-Nagant 91/30 is hard to beat. The ammo is about 30-06 power range, bolt action- and if you need a shorter one, get an M-38 or M-44 carbine- same caliber. Paid less than $100 for each of mine. Another $100 will get as much Milsurp ammo as you will shoot in the next couple of years. Or you can spend $900 on an AR-15 with half the range and faints at the sight of dirt (yeah, that oughta stir 'em up! ) |
I just read in the current version of American Rifleman that the U.S. actually used the 91 Moisin Nagant in WWI. Apparently Remington received a contract from Russia to produce 1,000,000 for them, but they ended up defaulting on the payment so we kept almost half of them and used them for training and then issued them...now I want one!
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I don't have the "Mattel" toy version of the AR-15..mine shoots accurately to 500+yds and has a port door to prevent dirt from entering the chamber area...  __________________
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If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
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| 06-18-2008, 12:24 AM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 427 |
 Hmmm .... can someone help me? My Ar-15, like, 'fainted' after I laid it up against a sand dune this afternoon; and, now, I can't seem to be able to revive it. Can any of you guys tell me how to get it back up and running again? Maybe the gas sphincter valve is clogged, or something?
PS: Also, no matter what I do, I can't seem to hit anything much past 350 yards with my AR, either. Is there a cure for this too?
How about 200 yards?
100? (Come on, I'm really desperate here!) | |
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| 06-18-2008, 12:40 AM | #15 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
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Originally Posted by G21.45
Hmmm .... can someone help me? My Ar-15, like, 'fainted' after I laid it up against a sand dune this afternoon; and, now, I can't seem to be able to revive it. Can any of you guys tell me how to get it back up and running again? Maybe the gas sphincter valve is clogged, or something?
PS: Also, no matter what I do, I can't seem to hit anything much past 350 yards with my AR, either. Is there a cure for this too?
How about 200 yards?
100? (Come on, I'm really desperate here!) |
Sure thing Valley Girl, bring it by the shop around closing hours and I would be happy to see what I can do for you. Just make sure you wear a short skirt....
JD __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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Originally Posted by doctherock
Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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| 06-18-2008, 12:41 AM | #16 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 3,252 |
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Originally Posted by G21.45
Hmmm .... can someone help me? My Ar-15, like, 'fainted' after I laid it up against a sand dune this afternoon; and, now, I can't seem to be able to revive it. Can any of you guys tell me how to get it back up and running again? Maybe the gas sphincter valve is clogged, or something?
Yes, I think I can help...I took a course in this...have you tried "mouth-to-muzzle" resuscitation". Ideally you should be performing rapid bolt compressions/decompressions simultaneously. This is difficult to do by yourself, so I suggest you do the bolt compressions/decompressions while a friend (c3shooter maybe?) does the "mouth-to-muzzle"...
PS: Also, no matter what I do, I can't seem to hit anything much past 350 yards with my AR, either. Is there a cure for this too?
How about 200 yards?
100? (Come on, I'm really desperate here!) |
Don't worry about accuracy after performing the above life-support routine...__________________
Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians
"The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved"
If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body - USMC
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"
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| 06-18-2008, 01:35 AM | #17 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,614 |
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Don't worry about accuracy after performing the above life-support routine...
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Please reserve this technique for gun haters. Tell 'em it's the best way to never have to worry about guns again.... __________________
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| 06-18-2008, 01:46 AM | #18 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 427 |
Jeeze, you guys can be brutal!  | |
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| 06-18-2008, 01:56 AM | #19 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,614 |
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Jeeze, you guys can be brutal! |
Now, now. It's just satire.... __________________
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| 06-18-2008, 02:31 AM | #20 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
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Now, now. It's just satire....
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Hey! He started it. Ragging on my beautiful AR platform... and after I did a 6 page write up on how to build one for crying out loud....
JD __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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Originally Posted by doctherock
Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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