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Old 05-07-2012, 03:16 AM   #41
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One thing that would be helpful would be for us to talk to whatever police officers or soldiers that we know personally. Ask them to discuss with their friends in their various departments or units, as to what the best thing would be for THEM to do during and after a disaster, this based on what's best for our Country and our beloved Constitution at such a vulnerable time. Most people are not aware that there are many in government who would like nothing better than our Constitution being set aside and a world government set-up in its place. These people come from both political parties so it's not just Obama. I think the elite of this world would like nothing better than to turn us all, once and for all, into sheep watched over by their assigned sheepdogs.

Remember, sheep have no rights.

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Police are already usually cut from the same cloth as criminals and clearly have an "us vs. them" attitude. It is very easy for them to step into the role of oppressor IMO. And they'll justify it. Most practice it daily. And laugh about it.

The troops I have a slightly different opinion of but the discipline instilled in them to follow orders to their death is core to their being. Tough situations only strengthen cohesion, and obeyance.

Sorry. And hope I didn't insult anyone...

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Police are already usually cut from the same cloth as criminals and clearly have an "us vs. them" attitude. It is very easy for them to step into the role of oppressor IMO. And they'll justify it. Most practice it daily. And laugh about it.

The troops I have a slightly different opinion of but the discipline instilled in them to follow orders to their death is core to their being. Tough situations only strengthen cohesion, and obeyance.

Sorry. And hope I didn't insult anyone...
My god....how did you know? Our secret is out! We even sit in bars where we drink for free, abuse the wait staff, and keep score of all the constitutional rights we stomp on every day. At the end of the month, the guy or gal with the most violations, and oppressive acts toward minorities wins an extra hundred bucks!

I only hope that when the zombie apocalypse comes, or EOTW cataclysm, or whatever it is going to be...that Darwinism takes FIRM control and stupid goes first...then people who believe that BS you just spewed...won't be part of "Gene Pool 2.0"

One thing is for sure...in disaster...idiots, infirm, incompetent, sickly, and stupid tend to die first.
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Police are already usually cut from the same cloth as criminals and clearly have an "us vs. them" attitude. It is very easy for them to step into the role of oppressor IMO. And they'll justify it. Most practice it daily. And laugh about it.

The troops I have a slightly different opinion of but the discipline instilled in them to follow orders to their death is core to their being. Tough situations only strengthen cohesion, and obeyance.

Sorry. And hope I didn't insult anyone...
....obedience. not "obeyance"..

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My god....how did you know? Our secret is out! We even sit in bars where we drink for free, abuse the wait staff, and keep score of all the constitutional rights we stomp on every day. At the end of the month, the guy or gal with the most violations, and oppressive acts toward minorities wins an extra hundred bucks!

I only hope that when the zombie apocalypse comes, or EOTW cataclysm, or whatever it is going to be...that Darwinism takes FIRM control and stupid goes first...then people who believe that BS you just spewed...won't be part of "Gene Pool 2.0"

One thing is for sure...in disaster...idiots, infirm, incompetent, sickly, and stupid tend to die first.
Agreed. Survival of the fittest. And most intelligent. If you're a retard, you're toast. And if you can't make people like you, especially authorities... you're toast.

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Living in Kalifornia, I have come across the "we are sheepdogs, you are sheep" attitude with police. I'm sure "some" of them still understand how important our Constitution is, especially in a crisis. Those are the ones I'm hoping will talk to their comrads and try to explain it to them what's at stake.

I have more faith in the non-career soldiers than the ones that have been in for a while. Many of these young soldiers were civilians a couple of years ago, some of them remembering their fathers having arms for self protection. When SHTF, I'm hoping these brave souls will stand-up and be counted when the time comes. It helps if they have thought about and talked about these issues before hand. It's a job we can all do now; start talking to our friends in authority.

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My god....how did you know? Our secret is out! We even sit in bars where we drink for free, abuse the wait staff, and keep score of all the constitutional rights we stomp on every day. At the end of the month, the guy or gal with the most violations, and oppressive acts toward minorities wins an extra hundred bucks!

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One thing is for sure...in disaster...idiots, infirm, incompetent, sickly, and stupid tend to die first.
Don't get me wrong: police are the opposite side but of the same coin as criminals. Then you, AZL, kinda go and demonstrate my point... You don't know me or what uniform(s) I do or may have worn, but act out "us vs. them."

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....obedience. not "obeyance"..
As Clemens said it ain't the things ya know, it's the things ya know that just ain't so. I, for one, hope you're right about the survival of the fittest, and most intelligent, though.
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My god....how did you know? Our secret is out! We even sit in bars where we drink for free, abuse the wait staff, and keep score of all the constitutional rights we stomp on every day. At the end of the month, the guy or gal with the most violations, and oppressive acts toward minorities wins an extra hundred bucks!

I only hope that when the zombie apocalypse comes, or EOTW cataclysm, or whatever it is going to be...that Darwinism takes FIRM control and stupid goes first...then people who believe that BS you just spewed...won't be part of "Gene Pool 2.0"

One thing is for sure...in disaster...idiots, infirm, incompetent, sickly, and stupid tend to die first.
He says we don't know him???

Classic pot stir type. Pops off with stuff he knows will piss people off. Just likes to post tosee his self talk and stir things up.

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Don't get me wrong: police are the opposite side but of the same coin as criminals. Then you, AZL, kinda go and demonstrate my point... You don't know me or what uniform(s) I do or may have worn, but act out "us vs. them."

Witty signature get a laugh at those bars, does it?
"If you take your hands off the back of my cruiser one more time, I will make your birth certificate a worthless document!" Me
Formerly known as ArizonaLawman"
The only point I demonstrate is the point that ignorant BS like you spout is sickening to men and women who do one of the toughest jobs on the planet and DO IT RIGHT. I find it personally insulting because I did it for 23 years and never, not one time, did I ever violate, or be part of any of the crap you accuse officers of doing.

Whatever uniform you may claim to have worn...I don't know...nor do I care. Because I don't judge YOU by the uniform you may or may not have worn, but by the BS sheepspeak you run from your mouth. I would also postulate that any uniform you might wear has your single syllable first-name printed in an oval in red letters on the pocket.

Would it surprise YOU to know that the vast majority of recruits and applicants to PD's are military? So, now do you want to say that THEY as a whole want to stomp on civil rights and whatever other BS you can accuse them of?

Who are YOU going to call next time you NEED a cop? If we are so bad, why don't you call a crackhead or some scumbag biker, or some gangbanger? Why don't you call a violent felon or a pedophile?

You know...it isn't the criminals that make the job so bad...it's people who spout YOUR particular brand of BS that makes it suck. You know why? Because it's types like YOU who couldn't do the job or earn the badge who hate what they could never be.

My sig line...because it was funny. YOU try dealing with a car full of 'bangers who are trying their best to divide your attention so they can assault/disarm/kill you. When the dash cam of that was reviewed you would find when I said it...the subjects wound up in stitches (as in laughing) and the whole incident went away....it is called HUMOR.

The profession DOES have some douchebags for sure...much like I would assert whatever it is YOU do does...and I think I could point out at least one example...but the extreme vast majority are some of the best people I have ever met. The ones who aren't soon get weeded out.

Don't try to paint us all with your bull****. To any thinking person, it is the same as calling all african americans the "N" word. That is how wrong, insulting, and ignorant it is.

My opinion of YOU wasn't formed or solidified until I read you tired, old, worn out, unoriginal, bull**** post. Now...well...let me just say that whenever I see my dog lick his ass...you're getting a kiss.

Have a nice day.
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