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Old 05-28-2013, 03:54 AM   #21
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I have a pair and have used them extensively. When shooting, they provide a more comfortable grip, and protection when you grab a hot barrel (ouch). I even used them when I worked carpentry, last summer. When you grab a hot tool or piece of metal that's been in the MS sun all day, you're glad you have them suckers on. Even if your colleagues rile you about em.
As far as survivalist/prepping, they have come in handy while hiking, for grabbing jagged sticks and briars.

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They're worn by the same prepper's that have solutions for keeping their iphones charged.
Hey now, solar chargers and bike generators are cool! XD
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Good question. They are better than nothing and you are able to still work like pull a trigger. They are the exclusive glove of guys who think they are tough and/or those who don't know what cold really is...
Spoken like a guy who's never seen a single day of Infantry service!

From FT. Campbell KY to Sania Egypt, to Korea, and back to FT Lewis WA... every single infantry soldier I knew, worked with, trained with, or saw...

...cut the fingers off there black issue glove shells and inserts for 2 reasons:

A. it's impossible to manipulate your gear with your fingertips covered.

B. Grunts are always mobile...creating your own heat... Unless your on the tundra, and stationary, your fingers are not getting cold. And if you are, you've got trigger mittens in your pack.

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Spoken like a guy who's never seen a single day of Infantry service!

From FT. Campbell KY to Sania Egypt, to Korea, and back to FT Lewis WA... every single infantry soldier I knew, worked with, trained with, or saw...

...cut the fingers off there black issue glove shells and inserts for 2 reasons:

A. it's impossible to manipulate your gear with your fingertips covered.

B. Grunts are always mobile...creating your own heat... Unless your on the tundra, and stationary, your fingers are not getting cold. And if you are, you've got trigger mittens in your pack.

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Cant believe I'm jumping to hocks defense...

Could be that the gloves you're referring to are just the wrong gloves for the situation. It is impossible to manipulate gear with the wrong type of glove. With the right type of glove, your dexterity is increased because you have feeling in your finger tips, the first thing to go in cold weather. A skin tight faux leather works great in mild climates for protection. For colder weather, a looser fitting, full fingered glove works fine as insulation. In frostbiteville, the mitten/fingerless-glove combo comes in handy.
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Cant believe I'm jumping to hocks defense...

Could be that the gloves you're referring to are just the wrong gloves for the situation. It is impossible to manipulate gear with the wrong type of glove. With the right type of glove, your dexterity is increased because you have feeling in your finger tips, the first thing to go in cold weather. A skin tight faux leather works great in mild climates for protection. For colder weather, a looser fitting, full fingered glove works fine as insulation. In frostbiteville, the mitten/fingerless-glove combo comes in handy.
Temperature will dictate and I don't know what fancy full fingered high dexterity gloves may be available today but...

Winter Steelhead fishing in the PNW would not be described as "balmy" especially when the waters your fishing typically runs in the 40 degree range. Fingerless wool fishing gloves have served me well in ^^THIS^^ environment for 40 years...

Korean winters would not be described as "balmy" either but the same fingerless shells/inserts served me perfectly. They protected the hands and left perfect dexterity for manipulating everything from ruck straps, to magazines, to bootlaces, to eating, to wiping your ass.

...many of these tasks can not be done in full gloves and the first thing a grunt learns, "usually the hard way", is that life sucks without gloves. ^^THIS^^ is not a piece of equipment you wish to be removing more than necessary for fear of loosing them.

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I'll tell you why I use them...

Form and function. I have yet to find a full glove that fits well enough to give me decent manual dexterity, military gloves included. I can pull the trigger, no problem. Picking up a round from the ground, even in the best of conditions, problem. Not an insurmountable problem, but a problem nonetheless. I like to avoid problems.

It's a control thing. Control is good. My primary concern was maintaining control when moisture gets on my hands, the grip, stock, or other parts of the firearm-person integration system (lol). If I am shooting in a moist air environment, early morning by the coast being most relevant to me, or if I am likely to be sweating, I want to ensure maximum control over my weapon. The fingerless gloves give me greater control without the added moisture resulting from increased hand temp. I like more control when I am engaging in activities capable of killing something.

I like to see what I am shooting. Wiping sweat from your brow is a whole lot easier and more effective using your fingers than it is using the surface of most gloves, (yes, I realize that a small towel would be even MORE effective, but who the heck shoots with a towel???) And if/when something gets in your eye, it is counter-productive to stick your gloved finger in your eye to clear it. Seeing what you may be about to kill is a good thing.

I live in California. We are required to have a mag lock that can only be opened with a tool. The velcro closure of the gloves gives me an ideal place to keep the tool while shooting, and between shoots helps to prevent losing the tool. It is much harder for me to misplace my gloves than it is a 2mm X 58.8mm piece of otherwise useless, pointless, potentially harmful & completely unnecessary stick of metal!!! (But I'm not resentful, noooo. Saves lives it does).

Conservation of movement. If you have to do things fast, as is likely in any SHTF scenario, try this exercise: shoot for 30 minutes and take your full fingered gloves off as quickly as you can, drop them on the ground, pick them up and put them on as fast as possible. How much time do you spend with your full fingered gloves? In that time, I can circle out of your line of fire, reload and begin taking up a flanking position. All before you are able to look up again. I'd rather keep my eye on the ball than take those extra 10, or even five seconds to remove, pull the reversed fingers out, and replace my glove.

I live in CA. They look cool

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For shooters that know COLD weather- Trigger finger mittens

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The Naval Aviation and the Army Air Corps(in WWII) issued that type of "shooting glove"...
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Temperature will dictate and I don't know what fancy full fingered high dexterity gloves may be available today but...

Winter Steelhead fishing in the PNW would not be described as "balmy" especially when the waters your fishing typically runs in the 40 degree range. Fingerless wool fishing gloves have served me well in ^^THIS^^ environment for 40 years...

Korean winters would not be described as "balmy" either but the same fingerless shells/inserts served me perfectly. They protected the hands and left perfect dexterity for manipulating everything from ruck straps, to magazines, to bootlaces, to eating, to wiping your ass.

...many of these tasks can not be done in full gloves and the first thing a grunt learns, "usually the hard way", is that life sucks without gloves. ^^THIS^^ is not a piece of equipment you wish to be removing more than necessary for fear of loosing them.

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...to clarify a bit more. By "fingerless", I'm not talked chopped off up to the where the first knuckle meets the hand. A good pair will cover the fingers down to the second knuckle... or slightly below leaving the Pads of the fingertips exposed.

This keep the meaty parts of the finger and hand protected from sharp objects, cold equipment, ambient temperatures, and moisture while maintaining dexterity.

Someone above mentioned the drill of "removing and re-doning" a pair of gloves... which is a great suggestion to prove a point.

Taking it a step further... I ask the doubters to consider the rigors of a 3 gun competition where reloading pistols mags, AR Mags, and Shotgun Shells is a part of your speed and overall score... now... Imagine your being shot at during all of this and will need to be hitting the ground hard and fast, time and time again.... and you begin to understand why people who fight with guns for a living always choose fingerless gloves.

The protection of the glove is mandatory and the dexterity of fingerless is essential.

...but I'm sure there are "kool Kid" civi's who wear them because they looked "bad ass" on Mel Gibson in the "Road Warrior" Saga!

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I always have found that if you have the right glove for the job you do not need to change them. So get the gloves that will work for what you need and where. I was stationed in some really cold places ( -60 ) and had have been deployed to the middle east when it was getting warm ( 115 ). I never cut my glove fingers off. I always bought the correct gloves for my environment.

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Been afield in 115 degrees and hunting in -12. Never cut the fingers off myself. Always wear gloves at the range for pistols, mostly thin driving gloves, to protect them in the Summer. I even compete with longuns in the Winter - Browning Winter gloves (I would NEVER cut they as so nice, and expensive) or neoprene and faux leather duty gloves til it's below freezing that I never cut the fingers off of either.

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