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What is WRONG with people today!?


View Poll Results: What do you believe is the most common reason people fail to defend themselves?
Fear of arrest. 8 16.67%
Media brainwashing. 12 25.00%
Wrong philosophy of life. (peace, man!) 13 27.08%
Other reason-I'll make a post to explain. 15 31.25%
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:18 PM   #21
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Knife? No. Club? No. Flower pot? No. Machete? No. Rake? Hmm. Probably not lol
Yeah, my tongue was in my cheek (a little) but it does serve to illustrate that a weapon is limited only by our imaginations, and what is within arms reach, during an attack.

Rule #1 of a fight: WIN! (no rules). If you walk away, and he (she?-more violent crimes are now being committed by females here, according to a recent report) has to be carried out (not necessarily dead, but at least on a gurney) you have probably succeeded.

Oh, yeah; I re-call a report from a couple of years back where an ('unarmed') 80-something man was accosted by 3! (teenage) thugs in England, and THEY were glad when the police showed up (think it
was London-lol) because it evidently involved a lot of elbows, knees, bites, etc. Apparently the guy reacted to their attack like a crazed Rottweiler-Bravo!!

Only a 'savage' during life-and-death

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A huge factor in today's society is the fact that our schools are left-wing liberal run and hugely anti-gun. Our kids are fed this stuff from Kindergarten all the way through college - and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Sheeple just don't get it until THEY have a life changing experience...
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A huge factor in today's society is the fact that our schools are left-wing liberal run and hugely anti-gun. Our kids are fed this stuff from Kindergarten all the way through college - and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Yep-but there is one BRIGHT spot in all this negativity (necessary to do, to be realistic) and it is:

Home-schooling! (cap is intentional-this is a movement, baby).

I met another (there are millions) couple the other day who do this, and they were bright, articulate, and (of course) conservative. They had their 15-year-old at the tennis courts, taking lessons from our 'resident pro'. He said he liked to be taught by his parents, and everything looked very cool with this family.

We did this with our youngest, and it works! He (17-almost 18) is a Christian, conservative, patriot who dislikes Obamaistic Socialism and plans to join the Corp, in about 1 or 2 years. (sorry, Marines-but that was his idea, not mine). :-P

The liberal agenda might have (many more millions) of our kids trapped in their nice little net right now, but the unintended consequence has been to drive us out of the public schools, and now there are home-schooled 'missionaries' to the public-school sad sacks.

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There is no God in our country anymore, that is what's wrong with it and the people who make up its society. Whether you believe in Jesus Christ as your savior or not, there was a time when everyone agreed to follow the teachings of Christianity as far as society and morality are concerned. This is no longer the case. People are making their own rules, thinking and caring only for themselves, taking no responsibility for their actions, blaming others for their mistakes or their lack of a Lexus and a 3000 square foot home.
Basically, people no longer love each other, meaning...they no longer care about anyone but themselves and will do anything to further whatever is most beneficial to themselves. There is no regard for anything in the area of morality and as this spreads thru our society it will only get worse.

Add to all that the current state of the economy which is adding stress and worry to a generation who has no idea what trying times are and they have no idea how to handle it. People are going nuts because they have no idea how to handle the fact that they aren't exactly comfortable. My generation is a sad group of people who have no idea how to deal with difficulties. 90% of them need a trip to Parris Island to straighten them out.
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VERY well said, spittinfire!

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Ignorance/bad philosophy, IMO. I had a roomate whose parents had never even showed him how to use a shotgun; i guess i could have understood not being familiar with a pistol, but c'mon a shotgun? I showed duder how to use the pump 12 guage in my corner, just the basics. He really had no concept; i would've thought he would've picked up something from TV action shows. I suppose that was a country boy vs. city boy difference that i did not expect. I don't think his religion had anything to do with it; he's Christian, but not a pacifist. I do think that people can be good and moral without religion or military training, but there are some who might find it easier to be good or moral with a strong support group such as a church or something like a church.

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I'm think that most victims of violent crimes was not aware of their enviroment.... let me explain in my bad english
A gun is a necessity... to save our lives when any other resource had been used... the common factor between violent (and no violent) crimes is "lack of prevention"...
If you're not aware of your surroundings you'll suffer an attack sooner or later... a gun is one part of your prevention, but if you walk at midnight in very bad neighborhood with a rolex in your wrist and a gun in the opposite pocket you did nothing to prevent the imminent attack... without a mindset a gun is useless... and there's why most people in here think that "that's not going to happen to my" is the obvious answer... most folks here have the tools (the other ones, not the gun) to recognize where's the problem and how to fix it... the problem is that we don't live in the forum....
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Yeah, my tongue was in my cheek (a little) but it does serve to illustrate that a weapon is limited only by our imaginations, and what is within arms reach, during an attack.

Rule #1 of a fight: WIN! (no rules). If you walk away, and he (she?-more violent crimes are now being committed by females here, according to a recent report) has to be carried out (not necessarily dead, but at least on a gurney) you have probably succeeded.

Oh, yeah; I re-call a report from a couple of years back where an ('unarmed') 80-something man was accosted by 3! (teenage) thugs in England, and THEY were glad when the police showed up (think it
was London-lol) because it evidently involved a lot of elbows, knees, bites, etc. Apparently the guy reacted to their attack like a crazed Rottweiler-Bravo!!

Only a 'savage' during life-and-death
Absolutely agree with you on that - there are NO rules on the street. Only thing is, here you take the risk of being jailed for assault/murder no matter what 'weapon' you use, improvised or whatever. You just have to take your chances...but even if you're in jail, at least you survived the attack I guess.


I bet that old Brit was a former serviceman...or a retired boxer like this guy



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I'm think that most victims of violent crimes was not aware of their enviroment.... let me explain in my bad english
A gun is a necessity... to save our lives when any other resource had been used... the common factor between violent (and no violent) crimes is "lack of prevention"...
If you're not aware of your surroundings you'll suffer an attack sooner or later... a gun is one part of your prevention, but if you walk at midnight in very bad neighborhood with a rolex in your wrist and a gun in the opposite pocket you did nothing to prevent the imminent attack... without a mindset a gun is useless... and there's why most people in here think that "that's not going to happen to my" is the obvious answer... most folks here have the tools (the other ones, not the gun) to recognize where's the problem and how to fix it... the problem is that we don't live in the forum....

Spot on, AsmelEduardo. This is exactly what we are taught in my krav class - situational awareness. Always be on the lookout for suspect characters, know who is walking behind you, always be ready to leave the area if anything looks suspicious, BEFORE any bad stuff has the chance to go down.

Of course, in the case where that's not possible (you are ambushed etc) then you fight for your life, and deal with the legal consequences afterwards. That old saying "better to be judged by 12 of your peers than carried out by 6" holds true.
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All i can say is I absolutely agree too. i feel all the reasons have been mentioned i cant think of anything more i could add.
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situational awareness. Always be on the lookout for suspect characters, know who is walking behind you, always be ready to leave the area if anything looks suspicious, BEFORE any bad stuff has the chance to go down.
Yeah-I heard of a NEW one-the thugs come up behind you, then start running fast, and do a linebacker between your shoulder blades. Then, after you fall down face-first on the concrete, they kick your ribcage in, and then grab your purse/wallet, and run off. Meantime, you lay there, and never know who/what hit you!

From the stories I read, they seem to take special delight in doing this to old, senior-citizen types. Many of them die.

Damn 'bangers!-

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