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View Poll Results: What do you believe is the most common reason people fail to defend themselves?
Fear of arrest. 8 16.67%
Media brainwashing. 12 25.00%
Wrong philosophy of life. (peace, man!) 13 27.08%
Other reason-I'll make a post to explain. 15 31.25%
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:00 PM   #11
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One...People who do not like fire arms nor feel a need to defend themselves generally do not feel threatened. They are of the mentality that it won't happen here or to them! (Sheeple)

Two...People who do not feel a need to defend themselves (and these are the most dangerous) believe it is the Governments responsibility to protect them. (Communists)

Three...People who are burdened by the thought that defending yourself is somehow in conflict with their peaceful co-existence in the universe. (Pond Scum)

Conclusion, those who feel no need to defend themselves are delusional, wrong thinking, and generally the "Self Reliance, Self Preservation" instinct has been lost to the peace, love, dope instinct.

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Old 09-20-2009, 07:08 PM   #12
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Great answers so far everybody-thanks!-

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i think alot of people are just not prepared,its a, it won't or cant happen to me mentality.they leave there guard down at all times and never consider there options in a life or death situation.
Very true-as another poster said, they've never encountered a life-or-death situation,
which makes me realize how valuable those experiences are for those of us who have.
This is the very reason why I teach (and practice) Mr. Cooper's color-scale alert level
system. I've never found anything better (for me) to stay 'in-tune' with my surroundings,
and any potential threats.

I think there are many times when we probably aren't even aware a potential adversary
is there (like in the shadows, for example) and are 'saved' by the way we carry ourselves,
and alertness.

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I think it's a combination of things, the media & the anti gunners doctrine, false trust in the system and brainwashing from many quarters as well as the "It will never happen to me" mindset.

It's denial and irrationality by people who will take a passionate stand on some phony environmental or made up social issue, yet not comprehend the simple concept of self defense.

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I picked "Other". It's a combination of "reasons."

- People don't think. When they do, they think "it hasn't happened to me in the past, so it won't happen to me in the future." Very illogical.

- 911. People place faith in a system that is reactive and not proactive. Police don't protect you, they react to violent situations after a crime has already been committed.

- Faith in dog, alarms, good neighborhood, etc. All misplaced faith.

- Don't like the alternative, guns. I meet many people that don't like the idea of owning guns because they don't know the first thing about how to care for or use one. I've even met people that say they could "never" pull the trigger on an intruder in their house. I guess they'd rather their children and their wives get assaulted and harmed than to protect them...

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Excellent posts! I suspect that there are complex underpinnings as to people's motivations, but the media plays a far stronger role than many would suspect.

Movies and television programs constantly reinforce that "those with guns are neanderthal types" who blast away but are ALWAYS conquered by the brain power of the "collective group."

News reports routinely flash images of handguns with any negative crime story, subtly imprinting "handgun=bad."

Worse, many people underestimate the power of words mixed with images. Our enemies have no such illusions, however. Take the movie "Lethal Weapon 3" - one of the producers bragged that scenes of the lead actors buckling their seat belts before a big car chase would "save lives." He knew that many people would respond to the subtle "good guys buckle up" message. In that same film, anti NRA posters are seen THREE times behind actors and in simple scenes. Now, betcha most people never even realized they saw those posters, but THEY ARE IN THE VIEWER'S BRAINS, as the subconscious does not miss or forget very much.

How many movies have been made about reckless hunters who decide to hunt people for sport? How many times in movies are the "gun nuts", the "suvivalists" and / or the rural self sufficient types seen as the BAD GUYS?

It is not accidental to the movie makers! Even when the message is one I tend to agree with, I do know that I am being manipulated ( for a classic scene, view Red Dawn, after the Cuban / Russian paratroopers take the High School, a view of the town finds an old truck bumper sticker with the famous, "...from my cold dead hands..." As the camera pans downward, a Russian miltary-booted foot is seen stomping down on a citizen's outstretched arm, removing a Colt .45 semiauto from the cold, dead hand!)

Now we have seen at least 3 generations raised in NEA dominated schools, media outlets that glorify the State and demonize indivdualism, and a government that is determined to disarm it's citizens. If more people don't wake up soon, we are in for hard- and violent - times ahead.

Unlike the nanny state idiots, most of us realize that civlization is a very thin veneer over barbarism and anarchy.

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It's denial and irrationality by people who will take a passionate stand on some phony environmental or made up social issue, yet not comprehend the simple concept of self defense.
Well said, 357-couldn't agree more.
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I agree with everyone else. Faith in the guvment, complacency, and irrational hope makes people think it will never happen to them.
I have all but given up on these people. They will be the first to either be victimized or killed in a SHTF situation. Unfortunately, they refuse to see the truth and hope for others to provide protection.
What bothers me is the number of people who think they have the right to tell us that we dont need to protect ourselves. They push their "peace" agenda and that includes the disarming of American citizens. Meanwhile there is an ever growing violent criminal element out there all to happy to see Americans turn away from their right to protect themselves.

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Wrong philosophy.
The police will be there just in time to ID your body and give you a ride to the morgue. Nothin against the PD, but unless you can afford to have an officer escort you and your family 24/7 you need to be prepared to defend your own.

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i'm gonna go with the "it won't happen to me" like a few others have posted already.

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Two...People who do not feel a need to defend themselves (and these are the most dangerous) believe it is the Governments responsibility to protect them. (Communists)
As a citizen of a country where it's REQUIRED BY LAW to take this POV, (whether you feel a need to defend yourself or not) ...I don't have much choice in the matter.


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What do 99.9% of these victims have in common?

NO GUN (knife, club, flower pot, machete, rake, etc.) there to DEFEND their life with!
Knife? No. Club? No. Flower pot? No. Machete? No. Rake? Hmm. Probably not lol
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