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Old 01-05-2013, 03:12 AM   #31
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any 4X4 diesel runs on WVO used motor oil et c.
If you have a gasser then convert to alcohol and build yourself a still!

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In the deep back country there are no roads. The best rigs can be disabled very quick. Flat tires, bent wheel rims, broken axels, ruptured fuel tanks roll overs. Very few will be able to cross contantly changing flows of moutain streams. In the winter 200" of snow ice and high winds will bury the best rigs until late summer. Any rig that depends on Peto fuel will go thru 100 gals very fast grinding in 4 Wheel above the snow line. And then things get bad.

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Older trucks will survive EMPs and are easier to repair. I've had this one since 1972.

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In the deep back country there are no roads. The best rigs can be disabled very quick. Flat tires, bent wheel rims, broken axels, ruptured fuel tanks roll overs. Very few will be able to cross contantly changing flows of moutain streams. In the winter 200" of snow ice and high winds will bury the best rigs until late summer. Any rig that depends on Peto fuel will go thru 100 gals very fast grinding in 4 Wheel above the snow line. And then things get bad.
Those are some good facts,but if your planning on surviving above the snow line,you better have several pack horses with you. There usually isn't too much to eat up there in the dead of winter.

I'll just take my Power Wagon filled with my gear and supplies,along with my 4 wheeler,and head to my hiding spot.
There's plenty of game,water,fertile soil,and places to stay. Oh,and we have plenty of horses to get around on also.




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In the deep back country there are no roads. The best rigs can be disabled very quick. Flat tires, bent wheel rims, broken axels, ruptured fuel tanks roll overs. Very few will be able to cross contantly changing flows of moutain streams. In the winter 200" of snow ice and high winds will bury the best rigs until late summer. Any rig that depends on Peto fuel will go thru 100 gals very fast grinding in 4 Wheel above the snow line. And then things get bad.
I have always believed that 4x4 lets you get stuck in more inaccessible places. If it does not have a winch it is not off road.
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Older trucks will survive EMPs and are easier to repair. I've had this one since 1972.
Very nice Popgun!
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When you roll into the Garden Of Eden parking spaces will be scarce.

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If you're worried about a TRUE SHTF, when anythings up for grabs, then you'd be better served knowing how to drive all manner of vehicles including atvs and motorcycles.
Older cars can be easier to hot wire, popping the clutch, draining fuel from vehicles you find, etc....

The BEST vehicle is like the best gun thread. It depends on the situation...
Look at traffic jams from the recent hurricanes. What a tsunami is rocketing to the east coast, and everyone clogs up the interstate... a dirtbike or motorcycle would be an obvious choice.

A truck could store an ATV, a snow mobile or a motorcycle in the bed.

An SUV could conceal the contents inside...

Where are you, and what do you want to accomplish?

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The illegals around here prefer Chibby trucks, old and new. Not a big fan of illegals but I like their pick in trucks. Like a rock.

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The illegals around here prefer Chibby trucks, old and new. Not a big fan of illegals but I like their pick in trucks. Like a rock.

Yup.
Around here they seem to prefer older Ford and Chevy basic pickups with manual transmissions.
And from a fix it yourself - find parts - keep it going cheap - point of view, there is probably some pretty sound thinking there.
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